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Old 03-14-2014, 08:46 AM   #482
strombad
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Default Reto Berra to the Avs for a *2014 2nd round pick*

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Originally Posted by theoforever View Post
This entire exchange is an opinion, yours and mine.
You have zero evidence to support your point of view, so you are just talking.

Should we take your word that Varlamov is not having a carrier year.
That JSG is not having a very good year.

And that Coaches and Goalie Coaches have no place in hockey, since as you put they have minimal impact.

Actually my opinion is supported by stats. I'm simply saying that neither Varlamov or JSG are reaching heights they haven't attained before, so to solely credit Roy for their performance is ridiculous. I never once said Allaire had minimal impact (in fact, I said you'd actually have an argument if you were trying to credit Allaire) or that coaches or goalie coaches don't matter, so perhaps stop putting words in my mouth if you'd like to continue the conversation.

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Originally Posted by puckluck2 View Post
Wow dude you want the guy to show you evidence that a coach has helped 2 goalies play better? That is literally impossible to do. You act as your opinion is so highly regarded it doesn't need "evidence" to support it.

The Avs are a much better coached team. Watching them play is all the evidence you need. The last 3 or so years they couldn't play defence worth crap.

Wow dude! Wow! Dude! Cowabunga! It's not impossible, it's called stats. If Roy was some goalie guru that could turn Berra into a big-time tender (as the person claimed) then that should be provable in some sense. Neither tender is currently showing exceptional statistics that can't be attributed to the better play of the entire team. I'm not arguing that Roy isn't a good coach, I'm simply saying it's foolish to think he's going to wave his magic wand and turn Berra into a great goalie. Allaire may be able to do it, but Roy? Show me evidence. What experience does he have in improving goaltenders? What? He was a great goaltender once? Yeah, Gretzky was a great player once, and that sure made HIM a good coach...

I know, I know, you're not much for concrete evidence over something being true or not. You'd just deny it anyway.
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