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Originally Posted by moon
Getting a team to bottom 5 in the NHL 2 years in a row is not unbelievable at all.
This team has huge defensive issues that has nothing to do with talent and the PP looks like 5 tyke guys thrown out there for the first time ever at times.
The hard work is nice but most teams would like to see a coach that is able to do more than yell and scream at kids and actually input some systems/teaching that helps the team win games.
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Getting a team with this level of talent to be competitive night in night out is a huge success and is not an easy thing to accomplish.
As for your argument that the defensive issues are not talent related, what are you basing that on? We haven't had any bonafide talent to work with on the backend all year outside of Gio and smid(from a strictly defensive standpoint), are you suggesting that if we had weber and doughty instead of butler and o'brien they would still struggle due to hartley's system?
The pp needs some work I'll give you that but considering gio, glencross and cammaleri have been out for extended periods this season I think you're expecting a little bit much out of the more inexperienced players we've had to put in to replace them, it's hard to expect a power play to run smoothly when your number 1 unit looks different week to week and can't develop any chemistry.
My point in my original post was that Hartley has these guys playing much greater then the sum of it's parts. In my view that is a big accomplishment and should be applauded, if you don't share that opinion then we'll have to agree to disagree.