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Originally Posted by Azure
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Come on, he does have a very good point. White Doors has done nothing to back himself up. The only thing he's done is attempt to cloud the issue with irrelevant points. He continually tries to call people out, and demand more infformation in support of their argument, but when people demand that he do the same, he runs away and hides or makes some glib comment, like that will get him off the hook. To be honest with you Azure, you have HOZ and White Doors as your primary support on issues, and that's not a good thing. Both have a habit of disappearing once the heat gets turned up and don't support their side of the argument. I give you a ton of credit, you support your side pretty well and cause people to rethink their position or find more infomration to support themselves or opinions to counter yours. That's how debate works. Not hit and run attacks of glib comments that aren't backed up. The behavior of the other two weaken your position, especially when you attempt to support them. IMO, you should be hammering them to stand up and present the case they are trying to argue.
It does not surprise me that HOZ and White Doors take this appraoch in trying to debate their case. Its the same way the administration is. Frankly, this is one of the reasons why people dislike the Bush administration so much, their glib nature in dealing with serious issues. As opposed to talking about the issues and finding the common ground the right like to try and minimalize the opinion on the other side and ignore the message. Instead of taking the debate and proving/disproving the points, like how it should be done, they dismiss the problem or try to sluff it off. That is frustrating for people and ends up harboring many bad feelings towards the administration and those who support it. The numbers don't lie. 29% and falling like a rock. People are getting turned off in droves, and it prevents those on that side of the fence with real ideas to improve things from being heard. So when you are fighting to get your point across, remember that you have tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber that are making your job that much more difficult.