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Originally Posted by HOZ
200,000? Where do you get yours? Same place Lanny gets his conspiracy theories from?
Body Count has 45,000 as it's max.
From 1992 - his fall Hussien has easily killed more than 1 million. 400,000 in mass graves have been found and hundreds of thousands dying because he chose to build palaces and withold medical supplies (actually profit from selling them onthe black market) rather than submit to unhindered weapons inspections.
Hussien displaced 2 million people from their homes int hat period as well. In stark contract to the 1-3 million Iraqis that have RETURNED home since the American lead invasion.
I WIN
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400,000 in mass graves after being killed directly by his actions?? Which actions on which dates?
And those dying through starvation and loss of their homes. Um... Bush runs the most desparate nation on earth where despite massive hoarded wealth thousands die in ghetto's each year, millions of women and children live well below the poverty line, and where that entire subclass is not only ignored but often blamed for their own institutionalized plight. Not to mention the fact he ruled over one of the greatest disasters in American leadership where largely due to his nepotism he lost an entire major metropolis!! Or where despite a large deficit financed war-costs, unprecedented tax cuts have primarily targeted the richest of his friends. Or where he himself has signed the death warrrents of hundreds of 'offenders' including minors, the handicapped, and those suspected of not have had a fair trial? Oh, or maybe the imprisonment/repression/contempt of the press where you have journalists going to jail and all press conferences are carefully scripted?
If you want to get into the harm caused by extenuating circumstances and elitest greed the Bush administration is not your best defence. Of course you would have to be objective to see that...
The difference in quality of life between the poorest and richest Iraqi's was hardly different then between the highest and lowest in the USA itself (In both cases disgusting) and the only reason you disagree is because you grossly underestimate the sad state of affairs in much of the poorest neighbourhoods of America. '
Basically it comes down to hypocracy and when you are as hypocritic as America is you have next to no legitmacy for your message when you start the preaching it to the foreign masses you seek to subtly control.
The fact that America's/Bush's entire plan was built up on being on the ethical high ground means that the everything was doomed form the start - and now always will be going forward.
Claeren.