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Originally Posted by Azure
I really don't get your point. Bush didn't sell Saddam any WMD.
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uh, i said administrators and facilitators. but go ahead and make stuff up, i mean in the spirit of the discussion, why not?
http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf
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Indeed, the United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.
who's in PNAC?
according to William Rivers Pitt, author:
http://truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/e...chive=1&num=53
Vice President Dick Cheney, one of the PNAC founders, who served as Secretary of Defense for Bush Sr.;
* I. Lewis Libby, Cheney's top national security assistant;
* Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, also a founding member, along with four of his chief aides including;
* Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, arguably the ideological father of the group;
* Eliot Abrams, prominent member of Bush's National Security Council, who was pardoned by Bush Sr. in the Iran/Contra scandal;
* John Bolton, who serves as Undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security in the Bush administration;
* Richard Perle, former Reagan administration official and present chairman of the powerful Defense Policy Board;
* Randy Scheunemann, President of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, who was Trent Lott's national security aide and who served as an advisor to Rumsfeld on Iraq in 2001;
* Bruce Jackson, Chairman of PNAC, a position he took after serving for years as vice president of weapons manufacturer Lockheed-Martin, and who also headed the Republican Party Platform subcommittee for National Security and Foreign Policy during the 2000 campaign. His section of the 2000 GOP Platform explicitly called for the removal of Saddam Hussein; * William Kristol, noted conservative writer for the Weekly Standard, a magazine owned along with the Fox News Network by conservative media mogul Ruppert Murdoch.
i'm not going to post the photo of rumsfeld shaking hands with saddam, very very known stuff.
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Originally Posted by Azure
The US has the right to spy on anyone they want too. What does the UN have to do with that?
But nice of you to blame the US for why Saddam disallowed the weapon inspectors to never properly do their job.  |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2247600.stm
Scott Ritter went from:
In August 1998, Mr Ritter resigned from his job, accusing the Security Council and the United States of caving in to the Iraqis. To compel Iraq into compliance, he told the BBC that year: "Iraq should be subjected to a major campaign that seeks to destroy the regime of Saddam Hussein."
to:
In 1999 he published a book, Endgame, where he argued that Unscom's mission had been compromised by Washington's use of inspections to spy on the Iraqis.
Last year he produced a documentary entitled Shifting Sands: The Truth about Unscom and the Disarming of Iraq. He said that his team was satisfied that Iraq had destroyed 98% of its weapons by 1995.
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Mr Ritter accused the US Government of deliberately setting new standards of disarmament criteria to maintain UN sanctions and justify continued bombing raids.
He also said Iraq "did co-operate to a very significant degree with the UN inspection process" and blamed the US and the UK for the breakdown.
Mr Ritter essentially repeated those views during his trip to Baghdad last year.
He said the US seemed "on the verge of an historic mistake".
"My government is making a case for war against Iraq that is built upon fear and ignorance," he added. "The truth of the matter is that Iraq today is not a threat to its neighbours and is not acting in a manner which threatens anyone outside of its own borders."
He has argued that the inspection team, Unscom, was a nest of US spies and that Iraq was disarmed long ago.
the US spying on iraq isn't the issue. it's that they infiltrated and discredited UNSCOM, which no longer could claim a right to be in iraq. period.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Isn't Alberta #2 on the proven oil reserves?
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suppose it depends on the list.
http://www.kilowattage.com/articles/..._countries.php
iraq's #4, iran's #3, canada is #2.
lists vary. iraq's high on them all.
why invade when you can just buy? iraq wasn't playing ball. we are.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Meaning Saddam could have killed more people then Hitler and you still wouldn't agree with invading Iraq.
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what the hell are you talking aboot? saddam was supported by the US during the worst of his purges, attacks, and gassings. nice try.