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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
You're comparing public shaming for a dog pooping in a cemetery to slavery and civil disobedience for racial equality? If it didn't already, this thread officially jumped the shark.
Social progress isn't a difficult concept. To put it another way, the question people should be asking is, when people use internet vigilantism to punish people for minor offenses, does it promote overall justice? There is no neutrality or objectivity, which are two characteristics required for justice. The burden of proof should be on the people advocating it as moral. I have not heard one argument that it benefits anyone. It just makes a few internet busybodies feel better and as if they are making a difference.
Here's an example that is directly comparable. When I walk outside I see people throw cigarette butts on the ground all the time. It's disgusting and it's a violation probably on par with what this girl did. Yet I am willing to bet that we all know people that do it and we let them get away with it because we know them and know that despite that activity, they are otherwise good people. Heck, you can drive by the Legion and see some of Canada's best doing it.
Would it be an acceptable measure of justice to take photos of these people and post them in public areas so everyone knows that they did something disrespectful? What if it was someone you knew, like your grandfather or mother? Posting people's images or identities for things that cause emotional responses makes those people susceptible to threats that go beyond what should be a reasonable punishment for the offense.
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How about the pictures from Vancouver stanley cup final? Should those not be permissable in court? Should those people not be prosecuted for the actions they caused?
So we can not use valid examples from the past? Sure, I used a more influential example, but do you want me to tell you a story about my friend? I don't think you would be very moved by that.
Accountability and whistleblowing are at it's all-time highest, especially with cameraphones and the internet. Things that were acceptable in the past simply are not. I don't care how "good" these people are, if someone does something socially deviant, they are held accountable. If someone I know gets put in the spotlight, it's their fault. I do not care if I have a relationship with them or not.
What you feel and what I feel from poop on a grave may be entirely different. To me, s*** happens, but I would not allow my pet to defecate on anyone's grave, let alone property. It is up to the community to decide what is acceptable or not. A reasonable punishment (whether monetary or media) is not up to me or you to decide.
Remember the fundamentalism of our government. It is the people, elected by the people, to represent the people. If discussing anything on a public forum regarding this "poop" issue is not in the interest of the people, we would not be able to discuss it in this forum.