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Bobblehead · 05-24-2006, 04:39 PM

One thing I can think of as to why this doesn't seem to happen in the Prairie provinces is that the treaties were written up later than in the east/BC. The treaty in question dates back to the 1840's, approx 40 years before the treaties with the prairie tribes. I know one stumbling block on this treaty was that it was signed before Confederation, so the federal government, who is in charge of Indian Affairs, didn't exist. Perhaps the later treaties were better written, with experience of an additional 40 years and a better framework of laws? Perhaps the tribes themselves; prairie tribes were nomadic, whereas in the East & BC they stayed in the same general area and built longhouses.

In the Nolan thread in the main forum, Hunter74 mentioned that the Six Nations helped us in the war, and without them we may have lost. He is partially right. We would have lost without the help, but it isn't because they just decided to help the British - Tecumseh (a true hero) was trying to join all the native tribes together to fight the Americans who were pushing the natives out and slaughtering them in raids. It was more an 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' deal. But the British did abandon Tecumseh in the end ( due to poor leadership - Brock had already been killed), and in the Treaty of Ghent the British gave the US lands which they had promised the natives (most of what is now Michigan).

So in my rambling way, I don't know why the problems all seem to occur outside of the prairies, but there are definitely differences.

(and for info on Ipperwash)

05-24-2006, 04:39 PM	#48
Bobblehead Franchise Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: in your blind spot. Exp:	One thing I can think of as to why this doesn't seem to happen in the Prairie provinces is that the treaties were written up later than in the east/BC. The treaty in question dates back to the 1840's, approx 40 years before the treaties with the prairie tribes. I know one stumbling block on this treaty was that it was signed before Confederation, so the federal government, who is in charge of Indian Affairs, didn't exist. Perhaps the later treaties were better written, with experience of an additional 40 years and a better framework of laws? Perhaps the tribes themselves; prairie tribes were nomadic, whereas in the East & BC they stayed in the same general area and built longhouses. In the Nolan thread in the main forum, Hunter74 mentioned that the Six Nations helped us in the war, and without them we may have lost. He is partially right. We would have lost without the help, but it isn't because they just decided to help the British - Tecumseh (a true hero) was trying to join all the native tribes together to fight the Americans who were pushing the natives out and slaughtering them in raids. It was more an 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' deal. But the British did abandon Tecumseh in the end ( due to poor leadership - Brock had already been killed), and in the Treaty of Ghent the British gave the US lands which they had promised the natives (most of what is now Michigan). So in my rambling way, I don't know why the problems all seem to occur outside of the prairies, but there are definitely differences. (and for info on Ipperwash) __________________ "The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence." —Bill Clinton "The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge." —Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress "But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity" —WKRP in Cincinatti