[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I never said no Native American's are offended. But it seems to me the studies among Native American people show a small percentage of them are actually offended.

I've seen a poll where it says that most aren't offended and I've seen a poll where it says most are offended. Honestly, I'm not sure that it matters. At what percentage do we decide that the number of people that are offended are significant enough that it is then acceptable to change the teams name? Is it a simple majority at 51%? Perhaps, even 40% will do? My personal opinion is that it makes no difference what these surveys say. When there are several Native American groups actively protesting the name because it is a racist monicker, I think it's safe to say that the name is considered offensive to at least some Native Americans.

I doubt they exist but I bet polls among Caucasians would show a significantly higher percentage of people that think it is offensive.

Do you mean today or like 10 years ago? Because 10 years ago the majority of hetersexuals thought that equal rights for the homosexual community was a non-starter. Further back, but within my lifetime, the majority of white people thought that racial segregation between whites and blacks wasn't a bad idea. Not too long ago a significant population of Europe thought it was okay to exterminate Jews and Gypsies. Ten years ago nobody really talked too much about the 'Redskins' name. I think ten years from now we'll likely look back with some embarassment that this was even a debate.

White people need to push the agenda of what they feel is best for other races. They think they are changing things for the better but in the end the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Oh boy, I don't know where to start with this. First of all, I think it's foolish to think you can generalize what all "white people" want to do. I have no idea if you're white or not. I don't really care either. I'm taking your opinion as your individual opinion and not as that of fans of Alberta beef everywhere.

Secondly, the cliche you stated about "the more things change the more they stay the same"... tell that to european Jews or African Americans or the LGBT community or any number of oppressed people who were denied equal treatment under the law because they looked different, prayed to a different God or literally loved their fellow man. Things changed a hell of a lot and it was for the better. Hopefully they continue to do so.

To be clear, I am not equating the name of a sports team to that of racial segregation, genocide or gay bashing. But the name of the team is a derogatory racial term. Just because we and many Native Americans have gotten used to hearing it over the last few decades doesn't make it less derogatory.

I honestly can't believe peole are even debating whether this name should be changed. I'd love to hear a really good pro-Redskin argument but the only arguments I've heard thus far are the anti-anti-Redskin arguments.