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Originally Posted by Slava
Can you though? I hear this argument and it makes sense, but then I see that even judging has ruined what should be an obvious sport in ski jumping. I don't know all the ins and outs of the sport, and like most people I become an expert watching it once every four years or so. It seems obvious though...come down the ramp and whoever goes the furthest wins, right? Have a look down the results from a couple days ago:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/winter-olympics/25830854
Its just not sensible. I'm sure that a ski jumping purist would be able to rationalize this, but honestly how do people jump further and finish out of the medals? Does it really matter what the style points are? We don't have the garbage in things like high jump or long jump, so why here? To me, and my completely amateur uninformed opinion, judging just makes the results murky and potentially questionable. In a day and age where medals are worth millions of dollars they shouldn't be handed out based on obviously subjective measures.
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So.... because you don't agree with the fact that ski jumping is judged... it shouldn't be? Because you don't understand the judging system, the sport shouldn't be judged? Ski jumping isn't all about who jumps the farthest - that's what they've decided in their sport so who am I (or you) to say it's wrong.
As for asking about estimating scores - I certainly can't in ski jumping, or slopestyle... But I can in figure skating, and diving and aerial skiing (though I'm not nearly as consistent with aerial skiing as I just starting following it). I follow these sports regularly - not just every four years - and I know how the judging system works. There is (and can be) consistency in subjectivity.
But really, your post just further's my point... people who are all of a sudden "experts" show up every four years to throw down their opinion that the judging is "rigged" or "biased" or whatever else they want to say - with no idea how the sport works or how the judging works.