[ranchlandsselling]

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

I'd say 2.

We don't fly straight flags. Want to know that you're accepted, well given I don't care and don't differentiate between gay straight, lesbian, or trans(insert option), I think it means you don't need a flag to say "hurrah for you". Maybe that comes across as insensitive, I'm not trying to be, I just don't see it as being accomplishing anything.

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

I just don't see what it accomplishes. Like someone above posted, I'm sure there are bigger problems in the city than something that will merely surve as a self satisfying pat on the back that results in NO CHANGE anywhere else.

I'm going to drop off some more old clothes I want to throw away as well as two jackets at a drop box tomorrow. I think Calgary would be a better place if everyone concerned about this flag would do that instead. Maybe there's some cold homeless people from the LGBT community that would prefer a jacket when it's -20 out over a colourful flag being raised at city hall directed towards a country, that these cold people right now don't care about what's going on or what it represents.

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

You're so childish. You started the thread and offered the answers don't get all sarcastic and passive aggressive when someone replies with one of the options you provided. Pretty much a false dilemma.



Remember guys, even though he gave two options there's only one right one, or you're the bad guy in the thread.

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

Actually I'm saying there are TONS of better options than the one that's being debated, not a limited amount. I'm suggesting that raising the flag is a complete waste of time, money and energy and is merely an attempt to do something that's likely more about looking and feeling good about oneself than actually doing anything constructive. I then used giving clothes as an example of something that would be a more constructive use of time. Additionally, given we all have limited time to spend on things, it is very true that some people may only have time to do one thing.

Of which responding to you two in this thread has exceeded my daily allocation of time on something like this, which I'd suggest is an even bigger waste of time than raising a rainbow flag.

Man, what a group.

I answered the question using the two answers provided and got lambasted.

OP comes back with this childish gem from my first post

"Originally Posted by flameswin
Thanks for your input, Stephen Colbert. Do you also not see colour?"


So I chimed back some additional comments on my opinion, that while I didn't see it as accomplishing much, I figured there was also better ways to spend time and gave an example. Whether or not said example makes much sense to anyone, it was something I figured was a better use my time and projected that onto other people. Oh no, how awful of me. Please let's turn this into a silly debate about how we can choose more than one way to spend our time. Yeah, because I was being so obtuse that I thought one person couldn't do more than one thing at once.

Originally Posted by strombad

I REALLY don't understand this whole "there are more important issues/phony waste of time" line of thinking, it's embarrassing.

RE: Other issues
As has been said, this is not a "support homosexual rights and every homeless person dies". In no way does the flying of this flag negatively affect any other cause. It's like saying "Well I didn't put on my pants this morning because I had to put on my shirt". It's senseless. The flag simply shows support for a group of people who's rights are being infringed upon. This is not an attack on Russia, it's support for a people. It's not going to change the laws, but it IS going to show people around the world that this is a politically safe place that supports you.

If you don't like it, fine. But don't make thinly veiled excuses that simply hide your own lack of compassion or prejudice. The "bigger issues" complex is a well documented excuse used by people not wishing to reveal their negative prejudices.

RE: Phony/Waste of time
Get over yourselves.


If you couldn't tell, I fully support it. It's an incredibly small but nice gesture.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to collect some clothes for the homeless, I won't let the conflict in Syria or homosexual rights stop me, because, you know, I'm a functioning human being.

Wow, if that's not an ignorant accusatory post full of false indictments I'm not sure what would be considered one. This place brings out the most incredulous accustations from posters wanting to put other posters in their appropriate places from their high horses.

Originally Posted by MattyC

So exactly how much time energy and money do you think raising this flag cost?

Energy? Mostly on the part of the people that asked for the flag to be raised. Likely a little paper work and a few signatures.

Time? Like 30 seconds?

Money? $15-$20 for the flag?

I'm not talking about the final act of doing something; I'm talking about the meetings, polling the appropriate people, etc. Don't be so ignorant to think that a bureaucracy like City Hall just says "it'd be nice to raise a flag” and that minute they source the flag and someone to string it up. If I'm wrong I've severely underestimated the ability for City Hall to make a small decision quickly and stand corrected. From my experience with huge companies, bureaucracies, and boards nothing is ever simple and easy. That’s the process I’m suggesting is a waste of time not the physical act of pulling a flag up a pole.

But that’s okay, I’d never think some individuals on CP are capable of not jumping to outrageous conclusions for their opportunity to attack someone and label them a racist or bigot.

Maybe it’s about time for an “I’ve had one drink can I drive thread”.