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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Holy strawman. The point isn't that he doesn't have the size to be a #1C. The point is if you don't bring the size, you better bring the speed (MacKinnon), grittiness (Toews), elite shot (Stamkos) or mad dangling skilz (Giroux).
And he's not being 'written off'. This is widely considered a weak draft. Reinhart is not regarded as the consensus #1 overall pick. In some drafts, there are no #1 centers drafted. Or the #1 centers who do come out of the draft are late bloomers who were drafted in the late 1st or second round. A top-five pick who turns into a #2 center is not a bust. Look at Daymond Langkow. Top centre taken his draft year. Solid #2 C his entire career. Not a bust by any stretch of the imagination.
Gotta love this place.
Person A: Player X is a 10.
Person B: More like a 9.
Person A: How can you say he's a piece of crap!!!
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Strawman?
I picked the first #1 centers that came to mind, or recent picks that were highly thought of as future #1 centers. Feel free to pick your own. It isn't like I picked Stajan who has been playing as the Flames' #1 center out of default for stretches in his tenure here, or some other 'not quite #1' guys. I don't know how you can point at that and say it is a strawman argument. Really, feel free to select your own (not named Crosby of course - #1 Centers don't have to be generational talents after all).
Point I was making was that many people (wasn't even just pointing at you by the way) don't feel that Reinhart doesn't have #1 center projections. They say he isn't offensive enough (scores at or great than many premier centers in the NHL in their respective draft years) or is too small (even though he is taller or heavier at this very moment than some, and can of course be expected to at least fill out if not gain another inch). Nevermind all his other intangibles (leadership, defensive acumen, right-handed shot, faceoff abilities, playmaking abilities).
I never accused anyone of stating he is going to bust. I am questioning how people can look at him and say they don't see a future #1 center in him. Sure, there are no guarantees that he will make it, and anything can derail a kid's career. I just have to question how someone watches him play and comes away with "Not #1 center potential", when everything points in that direction currently?
If you want clarification on any of my posts, please question and even challenge me on it - that is what a forum is about.
And yes, I do 'gotta love this place', or I would post here. This is a discussion forum on the Flames and hockey in general. You post, get argued with, learn something, and go with the flow. I have posted many things on this forum that have been challenged. Some have stood up, and a vast number of my thoughts were absolutely foolish and rightfully stomped on. No need to take anything personal. Sorry if my post made you feel that way.