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SeanCharles · 02-05-2014, 03:36 PM

I'm not sure how this will be recieved but why can't both be right?

First off I'll clear up my history: I was raised a Catholic, went to church and did most of the sacraments and attended Catholic schools. In University I studied Earth Sciences and today I consider myself an agnostic.

I don't subscribe to any one religion anymore and know there is no way the earth is only thousands of years old, even 10's of thousands.

I believe in what Science has offered the world and accept most, if not all, of the concepts behind evolution and the like.

However, maybe it is just the little Catholic school boy still in me but, I still don't discredit the potential existence of God or a creator/higher being.

Just to be clear, I don't buy into what alot of extreme creationalists believe, or even much of the Bible, in a literal sense.

I realize one of the problem's with the world today is we have people who take the Bible as documented facts but what it really is is documents about our historical mindset and beliefs at certain times throught our history. There is value in religious writings if they are interpreted with the understanding it is the moral of the stories and writings that are important and not the legitimacy of it. We should be advanced enough in critical thought to know alot of what the Bible, and the like, declares can't be taken as fact. Science has proven this.

But my original point is I don't like how both sides claim to be right and true and the other side is false and untrue. They both have their value to society.

Sadly in todays world it seems religion is more of a detriment to us than of value. But that doesnt mean spirituality is a detriment.

Why couldn't a creator of some kind cause the big bang to occur and as a result put in motion the processes that resulted in what we see before us today?

The universe is a complex system that has soooo many aspects of which we still do not understand. Yes religion is flawed and should probably be revolutionalized but can one not believe in science and evolution as well as adhere to the possibility of a greater power?

How often is any one thing in the universe black or white? There is so much grey it is ridiculous to only consider two possibilities, is it not?

As Socrates once said "I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing."

The knowledge we have now of the universe is miniscule compared the amount we do not know...

I adhere to the evolutionary model and look towards Science to learn more about my existence and what it entails.

But I still always consider the fact that at the end of the day there aren't too many things we can say, as a species, we have a full and complete understanding of.

Thats the end of my novel. Thanks for listening

02-05-2014, 03:36 PM	#49
SeanCharles First Line Centre Join Date: Jul 2013 Exp:	I'm not sure how this will be recieved but why can't both be right? First off I'll clear up my history: I was raised a Catholic, went to church and did most of the sacraments and attended Catholic schools. In University I studied Earth Sciences and today I consider myself an agnostic. I don't subscribe to any one religion anymore and know there is no way the earth is only thousands of years old, even 10's of thousands. I believe in what Science has offered the world and accept most, if not all, of the concepts behind evolution and the like. However, maybe it is just the little Catholic school boy still in me but, I still don't discredit the potential existence of God or a creator/higher being. Just to be clear, I don't buy into what alot of extreme creationalists believe, or even much of the Bible, in a literal sense. I realize one of the problem's with the world today is we have people who take the Bible as documented facts but what it really is is documents about our historical mindset and beliefs at certain times throught our history. There is value in religious writings if they are interpreted with the understanding it is the moral of the stories and writings that are important and not the legitimacy of it. We should be advanced enough in critical thought to know alot of what the Bible, and the like, declares can't be taken as fact. Science has proven this. But my original point is I don't like how both sides claim to be right and true and the other side is false and untrue. They both have their value to society. Sadly in todays world it seems religion is more of a detriment to us than of value. But that doesnt mean spirituality is a detriment. Why couldn't a creator of some kind cause the big bang to occur and as a result put in motion the processes that resulted in what we see before us today? The universe is a complex system that has soooo many aspects of which we still do not understand. Yes religion is flawed and should probably be revolutionalized but can one not believe in science and evolution as well as adhere to the possibility of a greater power? How often is any one thing in the universe black or white? There is so much grey it is ridiculous to only consider two possibilities, is it not? As Socrates once said "I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing." The knowledge we have now of the universe is miniscule compared the amount we do not know... I adhere to the evolutionary model and look towards Science to learn more about my existence and what it entails. But I still always consider the fact that at the end of the day there aren't too many things we can say, as a species, we have a full and complete understanding of. Thats the end of my novel. Thanks for listening Last edited by SeanCharles; 02-05-2014 at 03:48 PM.