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Originally Posted by Jonesy
Again semantics, evolution surely has some ideas on what started the universe, typically referred to as the big bang i believe. I am just asking what banged and who caused it to bang. I have never heard a good response. I choose to call that 'force' God. You can leave it unnamed or unknown if you wish.
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Seriously? Get at least slightly educated about the things you're arguing about. Theories about the origin of the universe have nothing whatsoever to do with theories about the evolution of species extant on Earth. Lumping them all together is sort of like critiquing Christian doctrine by quoting the Qu'ran.
Anyway, I tend to side with the people who said that Nye loses just by showing up. I know, I take the point that by not showing up you yield the floor time, but doing this simply suggests that the "intelligent design" flat-earther perspective is worthy of equal time. Also, because Douglas Adams already succinctly summarized the debate.
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Originally Posted by HHGTTG
The Babel fish is small, yellow, leechlike, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centers of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.
Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the NON-existence of God.
The argument goes like this:
`I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
`Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
`Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
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