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Old 02-05-2014, 01:47 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by CubicleGeek View Post
I typically stray from having these kind of debates with creationists.

The last conversation I had the entire premise supporting that someone must have created the universe was that it couldn't have just existed out of nothing. By that logic, I asked who then created the creator as he/she/it cannot exist out of nothing. Apparently, that is the exception to the rule.

It's a fruitless, frustrating endeavour.
Both sides believe at some point in the distant past that the universe was 'started' Creationists call this force 'God' Evolutionists don't know what it was, and say it was from nothing. Something from nothing is not a plausible scientific theory so they need a better answer than that. I am calling it 'God' you can insist it was nothing that made everything, but I can't understand how that is a satisfactory answer. You should at least say some unknwn force, energy etc. (this of course would just point to the start of the universe and imply there is something else there before the 'universe'

I guess I am saying both arguements take a leap of faith on how things got rolling.
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