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Originally Posted by Caged Great
The last team to win a cup without a top 5 pick was Detroit in 08.
13 - Kane Toews
12 - Doughty
11 - Seguin
10 - Kane Towes
09 - Crosby Malkin Fleury Whitney Staal
08 - Detroit
07 - Ryan
06 - Staal
04 - Lecavalier
Monahan is a good player, but if he's your best player, you are not going to win the cup. You need at least one player that is better than him, preferably two. Reinhart/Bennett/Dal Colle/Draisaitl are all good, but if Mono was in the draft this year he'd be #1.
To win, you need stars. We have the chance to get one if we are picking 1-4 next year, so it'll be a huge disappointment and will throw a wrench in the process if we don't get that. That doesn't mean that you can't get star talent in other ways, it is just a lot more difficult.
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I disagree. Two of the players you listed had very little impact on their team's cup wins. Bobby Ryan was in the AHL that year and Seguin was not an imact player in those playoffs (debatable). That leaves 3 of the last 7 cup winners without a significant top 5 pick in the lineup. Sure, it helps to ave a top 5 pick but it isn't necessary.
There were 65 top 5 picks between 1998 (oldest draft cited) and 2010 (most recent draft cited). Of those 65 picks, only 11 won a stanley cup (17%). You never said that a top 5 pick was guaranteed to take their team to a cup. My elementary analysis suggests that a top 5 pick only got their team to the cup finals 17% of the time.
My point is that the flames should not be desperate for a top 5 pick because they are not critical on all cup winning teams.