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Old 01-29-2014, 05:42 PM   #1370
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+/- get's a lot more weight from the performance of the entire team as opposed to goals and assists which are pretty much individual.

I think it's fair to say that you'd expect a much higher correlation for predicting a player from their individual points and a low correlation insight into their defensive game from the +/-. Note that I'm not saying it doesn't mean anything, yes, leading the league certainly suggests that he's not bad at it but it doesn't translate directly to success.

Perhaps a pertinent example would be Iginla. In his last full season with the Flames he was a -10 and currently through 52 games with the Bruins he is a +20. It is completely unreasonable to suggest that he just got a whole lot better defensively on his own between that period, but it's also unreasonable to suggest that it has nothing to do with him either, thus a weak correlation.

I think it's very fair to have questions about his defensive game at this point, not genuine concern, but questions.
I don't think that is quite a great comparison seeing as the Boston Bruins as a team have a high powered defence and goalie.

The Bruins combined are a +213 where as Iginla is a +20 (Roughly 10%)
The Eagles combined are a +45 where as Gaudreau is +31 (Roughly 67%)

Its very apparent that the other players on BC are getting scored on 5 on 5 ALOT more than the Gaudreau line and hes playing against top players on opposing teams..

Yes +/- is not the most tell tail stat by any stretch but it definitely counts for something.

I'm not really too concerned about his 2 way game based on stats and the fact that he stated he was playing his Junior year with BC to improve on his defensive game.
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