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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Franchise player to most of us refers to a player to build your team around. Ie. The franchise player. When you think of the franchise, you think of that player. When people say Boston, how many people immediately think of Bergeron? Two. His parents. Every team does not have a franchise centre. In fact there isn't even 30 franchise players in the league.
How many GMs would build their team around Bergeron? Zero
How many teams would build around Chara? Many
Sorry, but Bergeron is not a franchise center. He's a great player and great defensively, but the only thing ludicrous is the Toews comparison.
Toews was the third youngest captain in NHL history, Bergeron is not.
Toews has a Conn Smyth, Bergeron does not
Toews is the youngest player to be a Triple Crown winner (Stanley Cup, Olympics, World Juniors), Bergen is not.
Toews had won two cups, Bergeron has one.
Toews is 0.91 PPG career, Bergeron is 0.74
These two are not the same
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It's really just an argument about semantics. People get so bent out of shape regarding just words and how you choose to describe players.
I'll give you the Toews comparison, although I wouldn't say it's ludicrous to compare the two. Yes Toews is a better player, but IN THAT ROLE, they are very comparable. IE, if you're looking for a top line, defensevly reliable center that can get you points and be clutch, my list goes Crosby, Toews, Bergeron. But I would agree that the one franchise player on the Bruins would be Chara. Dude is a monster.
My definition of a franchise center is a top-line center that you can build a championship team around. Yes, the Bruins are built around Chara moreso than any other player, but Bergeron is their championship franchise center and will be for quite a few more years.
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Wow, has the term 'franchise' player ever been degraded. It used to mean a first-ballot hall of famer who you build your whole team around for a decade or more. There used to be maybe 5 of 6 franchise players in the league. Gretzky. Lemieux. Bourque. Sakic. Roy. Yzerman.
But now it means established front-line player, and there are like 18 franchise centers alone in the league? So looks like we'll have to come up with a new term for the handful of players in the league who can change the complexion and fortunes of an entire franchise. How about mega-super-duper-franchise player?
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How about...Hall of Fame Player....