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Originally Posted by MattyC
People saying Bergeron is not a franchise center completely blows my mind. A Cup, two visits to the cup finals in the last 3 years, drives a team that is a perrenial contender, constant Selke conversation/nominations, 2 placements on Team Canada AS A CENTER. He must be doing something right. Centerman are not always going to be top-point producers if they are two-way players unless youre Sidney Crosby. Citing a PPG as a condition of the label is ridiculous. Like someone on every team scores at that clip or something. Has Toews ever been PPG? I put Toews and Bergeron in the same level. Which is the top.
Same with Kopitar. The fact that this is even a conversation is ludicrous.
Also, I came in here for Oiler's hilarity. Where'd that go?
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Franchise player to most of us refers to a player to build your team around. Ie. The franchise player. When you think of the franchise, you think of that player. When people say Boston, how many people immediately think of Bergeron? Two. His parents. Every team does not have a franchise centre. In fact there isn't even 30 franchise players in the league.
How many GMs would build their team around Bergeron? Zero
How many teams would build around Chara? Many
Sorry, but Bergeron is not a franchise center. He's a great player and great defensively, but the only thing ludicrous is the Toews comparison.
Toews was the third youngest captain in NHL history, Bergeron is not.
Toews has a Conn Smyth, Bergeron does not
Toews is the youngest player to be a Triple Crown winner (Stanley Cup, Olympics, World Juniors), Bergen is not.
Toews had won two cups, Bergeron has one.
Toews is 0.91 PPG career, Bergeron is 0.74
These two are not the same