[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan@Oct 9 2004, 02:23 AM
That's my point Roos....my reasons haven't changed.

The facts still remain....

Saddam had in his posession post '91 WMD (I hate the phrase).
He used them prior to that time.
They were documented post Gulf War.
He was mandated by the UN to destory them and to do so in an accountable manner.
He did not.
He ignored/laughed at/disrespected 17 UN resolutions and a cease fire agreement.

He had illegal missiles capable of reaching Israel...those were found early on. No nasty warheads, though.

It was reasonable to assume that he had them still and that they could be used to attack his neighbors or pawned off to terrorists.

Hussein supported terrorism.

He paid families of Palestinian suicide bombers.

He gave refuge to Abu Nidal.

He gave refuge and medical treatment to Al-Zarqawi, who is associated with Al-Qaeda.

Still going with facts here.....

I have NEVER said there was a link between Hussein and 9-11.
I have NEVER said there was a link between Hussein and Bin-Laden.
I have ONLY said (in this area) that it was not unlikely that sharing a common enemy would unite them at some point in the future in some way.

Do you have a serious problem with any of these facts? If you don't, then it comes down to you and I having different views on what justifies a madman's removal from power. I find the above pretty compelling whether WMD's were found or not.

As for your last paragraph, if you'll read my earlier post you might find that I beat you to that punch.

Are these justifications for war or proof that Saddam was a bad person? I agree he's a madman, but if the US removed him for the reasons that you've stated... well, that would be fantastic! We could trust the US to remove all the problem-tators all over the world.

The fact is though, "Saddam was a bad guy" rings hollow because there are lots of bad guys. Lots of them. Why doesn't the US remove all of them in the same fashion? Hell, some of them actually have WMD's.

I don't dispute any of your charges Dis, I just think that if it applies to Saddam, it should apply to the Ayatollah, Kim Jung, etc. Shouldn't you be demanding the removal of these guys as well? And if they're not removed, doesn't that mean that there's a greater prevailing reason for this war beyond "Saddam was a bad guy, bottom line"?