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Originally Posted by dying4acup
There are exceptions, but I would try to quantify a franchise center, in the current era, as one who has been a #1 center for a cup winner, and averaged aboved 1ppg, while close to ppg for career over 400gp...
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This is an odd set of criteria. Jonathan Toews would be disqualified, owing to the fact that despite his two Cup championships, is consistently below a point/game every season. Henrik Sedin would also be disqualified, despite his four consecutive point/game seasons, and his #6 placement among active players in all-time career assists.
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Originally Posted by dying4acup
Kopitar is a franchise. I don't even think he has peaked yet. Keep in mind that he is playing in a suffocating offensive system and still putting up numbers.
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Kopitar doesn't meet your +point/game criterion while playing for a cup winner. It is strange to see the exception made for him and Toews, while you disqualify Thornton (which is hilarious), and likely also Sedin, Tavares, Backstrom, Stamkos for not having won a championship. Sometimes, no matter how good a player is, their circumstances will dictate more than their skills the course of their careers.
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Originally Posted by dying4acup
And btw, Thornton isn't a franchise center in my books.
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...which really is laughable.