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Originally Posted by strombad
Nor do I even partially understand how you came to the conclusion that Burke simply wants the GM job and has all along. Though, I suspect that one is simply the result of the extra layer of foil you put on your hat this morning.
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Prove it... He could have named himself GM, BUT HE DIDN'T. As to what difference it would make, you frankly have no idea.
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It seems like you're the one with no idea:
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Fired Maple Leafs GM Brian Burke wants to run another NHL team soon. “Tomorrow if I can,” Burke said on Saturday when asked if he wanted to become a GM of another team. “I don’t think I’m done in hockey. I’m definitely in the job market, no question.”
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http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/..._tomorrow.html
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Burke said he initially rebuffed the Flames because he wanted to be GM, not a president and had to get “his head around” a different role.
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http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/...onference.html
According to the "deal" Burke has with the Calgary Flames, Burke is not going to be the GM.
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On why he did not want to become the permanent general manager
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I thought that would be the first question. First off, it’s not the deal I made with Ken King and the ownership group here … I’m not going to welch on that deal now, and say, all of the sudden, ‘A-ha! Now I want to be the GM.’ It would certainly cast a suspicion on my motives in making this change, too, if I now say, ‘well, I’m the new GM.’”
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http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/...algary-flames/
So you can say I'm reading in between the lines too much or that I'm expounding some conspiracy theory, but does anybody believe Burke didn't want to be the GM of another NHL team after he was fired by the Leafs? He wanted the job. He didn't get it with Calgary and he accepted the new role with what he probably felt as greater job security.
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
What makes you think that the next GM of the Flames will "have to run everything through Burke," "won't be given the authority to make decisions on his own," nor will he be "given much in the way of deference"?
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When Burke was hired he said this: "If Jay has something to do, we’ll talk about it, try to reach some kind of consensus."
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
In actual fact, I think that Burke and the Flames are working on building the organisation much like the Blues were built. To that end, Burke is probably fashioning his own position in the same mould as John Davidson, who—while hands on—DID NOT insist on deference from his own very highly competent and successful general manager. The ST. Louis model is actually very attractive for precisely the "puppet model" that you are claiming for Burke' approach. Doug Armstrong was eased into his current position. If the Flames end up hiring a young guy with potential, then I expect that his own career path will follow much the same track as Armstrong, with Burke to help him reach his full potential.
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Actually you can ask Blues fans about this, the consensus seem to be that Davidson was not a rubber stamper but a guy who called all the shots. Pleau was on his way to retirement and simply handled the day to day activities. Armstrong wasn't "eased" into his current position as much as he was hired as Pleau's heir apparent. Once Armstrong was named GM Davidson took a step back. This isn't some secret.
Regardless, there is a difference in personality and experience here. Davidson doesn't have GM experience and like other teams with this structure, Davidson has to rely on someone else both for advice and to perform some of the GM duties. Burke on the other hand is an experienced GM and experienced in running an NHL team's hockey operations and is fully capable of handling every aspect of a GM's job. Burke doesn't NEED anyone to advice him or perform duties traditionally and customarily associated with a GM. Burke has always been outspoken about how HE is the guy making the decisions. Burke has never been a guy who tells his staff to make the decisions but rather you have to convince him that he's the right move, which I think is the way it should be if you have a competent leader. But ya you really think Burke would defer to others as much as Davidson did and does?