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Cleveland Steam Whistle · 01-03-2014, 01:51 PM

I haven't been following the thread much, so not sure where the convo has gone, but felt like making a comment on this Bobby Ryan/ Burke piece.

I'll admit, I'm usually pretty good with Burke's outspokenness but when I first saw the quote and Ryan's reaction I was ready to come in here and say I agreeded with Ryan and say that Burke's crossed the line. While I agree getting performance review is a part of life, and there is nothing wrong with the comments Burke made and telling Ryan them, I had an issue with them being made in public in this case. And the reason being, is because in this situation, there is nothing Ryan can do about it or any benefit being made by making them public. St this point, Ryan can't take it as a public message, up his intensity and make the team. So making the comment publicly does nothing but poor dirt on the guy after you cut him, not fair and does nothing but embarras him. Comments like that should only be made publicly if the person being talked about has an opportunity to action. For example, if Burke calls out a Flame in the media or says something harsh, that's ok, that's part of the business and a tool Burke can use, because that member of the Flames organization can respond, do something about it in upcoming games. But saying that about a USA player after cuts have been made, not helpful.

But what I didn't realize, is that Burke's comments weren't ones he made in a press conference or interview post cuts. At first I didn't realize he said these comments in a talent review with the rest of the brain trust talking about the choices they need to make. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. However, it does get complicated, given the press was in attendance, so then I become torn. As a fan, I want the behind the scenes access, and I don't want it to be filtered, but I also think it sucks that Ryan's "performance review" gets made public after he can't action it. But I think I'm landing on that NHL players get paid so much for their craft, and part of that is because of the public exposure, and in this case Ryan needs to understand that Burke said these comments behind closed doors, and it's different then if he just showed up at the conference and ripped him.

01-03-2014, 01:51 PM	#400
Cleveland Steam Whistle Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2011 Exp:	I haven't been following the thread much, so not sure where the convo has gone, but felt like making a comment on this Bobby Ryan/ Burke piece. I'll admit, I'm usually pretty good with Burke's outspokenness but when I first saw the quote and Ryan's reaction I was ready to come in here and say I agreeded with Ryan and say that Burke's crossed the line. While I agree getting performance review is a part of life, and there is nothing wrong with the comments Burke made and telling Ryan them, I had an issue with them being made in public in this case. And the reason being, is because in this situation, there is nothing Ryan can do about it or any benefit being made by making them public. St this point, Ryan can't take it as a public message, up his intensity and make the team. So making the comment publicly does nothing but poor dirt on the guy after you cut him, not fair and does nothing but embarras him. Comments like that should only be made publicly if the person being talked about has an opportunity to action. For example, if Burke calls out a Flame in the media or says something harsh, that's ok, that's part of the business and a tool Burke can use, because that member of the Flames organization can respond, do something about it in upcoming games. But saying that about a USA player after cuts have been made, not helpful. But what I didn't realize, is that Burke's comments weren't ones he made in a press conference or interview post cuts. At first I didn't realize he said these comments in a talent review with the rest of the brain trust talking about the choices they need to make. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. However, it does get complicated, given the press was in attendance, so then I become torn. As a fan, I want the behind the scenes access, and I don't want it to be filtered, but I also think it sucks that Ryan's "performance review" gets made public after he can't action it. But I think I'm landing on that NHL players get paid so much for their craft, and part of that is because of the public exposure, and in this case Ryan needs to understand that Burke said these comments behind closed doors, and it's different then if he just showed up at the conference and ripped him.