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Old 01-02-2014, 05:28 PM   #287
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Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19 View Post
That's not the point. The point is that the results are clear: being good at puck possession, building your team so that the roster you ice has a high Corsi%, is something that GMs should strive for, because teams that have a high Corsi% are more successful than others. Good possession teams make the playoffs, bad ones tend not to, so if you're running a team, you should probably try as hard as possible to fall into the former category.

I agree with this. For example, Justin Williams is consitently one of the best possession players in the league, but I'd still rather have Phil Kessel. However, it certainly is a strong attribute to have, and since there are only so many Phil Kessel level talents in the league, it's absolutely an important factor to consider when making personnel decisions.
Here's the thing... how do you build a team with high corsi? In theory would you not build the Oilers? A bunch of puck possession guys who can dangle and hold the puck?

Baseball... which kicked off the advanced stat brigade (moneyball, etc) is a series of one on one events so you can easily pull data and make decisions that way. It was also created by a bunch of true mathematical/statisical minds. Now you've got every two bit internet guy screaming... you need possession! That's great... but is it actually a skill a player can possess?

You look at Calgary's CORSI here - http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_stati...34+45+46+63+67 - TJ Galiardi is one of the best guys, Jiri Hudler is in the bottom tier. That is a small example... but its why using the current advanced stats out there on an individual player basis is stupid. I'm sure Iginla and Bouwmeester's CORSI/FENwick or whatever else went from bad to good as soon as they left the Flames and were on better teams last year. Its way too dependent on your teammates.

I will close with this... Corsi and these advanced stats are clearly good for telling what happened and can predict on a team level what may happen. But until they can tell you how to fix it... they are useless for a GM beyond saying 'well we are being really lucky or unlucky right now and we might want to make a move to based on that'

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