Oh I don't disagree that there are other important factors when it comes to gun violence and crime and violence in general. Poverty and focus on mental health are two big concerns, and also two things that the US is near the bottom of the list on compared to other western nations, and of course they factor into the gun violence debate.
However it's pretty easy to see that if guns did have a positive impact on crime and/or violence, the US would be one of the safest countries in the world. They're not, in fact they're one of the least safe. One can try to spin it however one wants, but even in using the gun lobbys maxim of guns = equals safety, the argument falls apart immediately and conclusively.
Regardless, there are enough threads about guns and US safety concerns so we don't need to repeat it here. Just wanted to disagree with your comment about how it may pertain to North Korea. Of course they are under strict gun control, but it's an overly simplistic way of looking at the problem as they are under strict EVERYTHING control. It doesn't look at the real issues or even the situation in general, not to mention it degrades into an impossible to prove chicken vs egg discussion.
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