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Old 12-18-2013, 12:02 PM   #1468
HockeyIlliterate
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Originally Posted by Cabbage View Post
I don't live downtown and own a vehicle but I have a Safeway across the street and I actually prefer to go shopping by walking there. It forces me to only buy the things I need and in turn saves me money.
Are you suggesting that people who drive to the grocery store, by virtue of their mode of transportation, lack the self control to only buy the things that they need?

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Originally Posted by Cabbage View Post
For larger items, you can always get them delivered.
By Amazon drones?

If not, isn't the delivery company on the road, and don't you think that they might benefit from optimized traffic light timings?

After all, you might be able to get your item delivered slightly quicker...

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Originally Posted by Bunk View Post
On that particular project, traffic movement was sped up - if anything it was at the slight expense of the convenience of pedestrians as they may have to wait slightly longer at lights while an advance left-turn green is going for instance. On the other hand, pedestrians benefit from not having cyclists on the sidewalk. Seemed like a win-win for everyone.
Okay, well, let's be honest for a second.

Most pedestrians (myself included) pay little attention to the walk/don't walk signs if there is no cross-traffic around that could mow them down while they walk across a street.

Furthermore, isn't it against the law for cyclists to be on the sidewalk anyway? I know that there are some exceptions, and on some roads bicycles-on-the-sidewalk is explictly allowed, but justifying certain cycling improvements by saying that they get bicyclists off the sidewalk is meaningless, when the cyclists never should have been on the sidewalk in the first place.

It is a bad analogy, I know, but isn't it like rationalizing the construction of a garage by saying that the garage allowed me to get my car off of my neighbor's roof?
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