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Old 12-17-2013, 11:52 AM   #124
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Where are you guys getting these numbers from? (1)check the price list...how many seats in the dome cost $200+ per game? I doubt the average face value per seat is anywhere near $260 a game (2) the flames have 14k season tickets that they get season ticket price revenues on, they're not getting door prices on 75%+ of their seats, but sell them at a discount to sths (3) the Jets are missing the most marginal seats...so $25 a ticket. So why you're basing numbers on avg pricing is a mystery (4) an average stadium in the NHL seats around 17k, the dome fits more because they have fewer luxury seats...and luxury seats are the highest revenue seats, so the flames are have more cheap seats but less expensive seats (5) Winnipeg purposely wanted a small stadium to increase scarcity value because it lowers the likelihood people will give up their season seats b/c when their is a wait list there is a lower probability of getting the seats back when the team so good: aka contributes to a stronger primary market and gives more stability when the team sucks. The largest value of having season tickets is the playoff rights, and the value increases with the length of the wait list.
Those numbers are secondary market (or resale) prices, not average prices.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/...st_in_nhl.html

Average ticket prices are much lower:

http://www.fancostexperience.com/pag...020_pdf001.pdf

Flames are $66.35 and Jets are $97.84.

Flames = $66.35 x 45 games x 19,289 seats = = $57,592,131.70
Jets = $97.84 x 45 games x 15,003 seats = = $66,055,208.40

Then take a team like San Jose, a middle of the pack team:

Sharks = $51.47 x 44 games x 17,496 seats = $39,622,841.30

So in ticket sales the Jets are $25 million ahead of the Sharks but nobody would ever say the Sharks are in danger of moving. Fact is, the Jets will never be an upper-range team in revenue but they should comfortably be in that 10-20 range as long as they're in Winnipeg. They're not in danger of moving now or anytime down the road, particularly with the casino subsidy and investment in the arena district.
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