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WTF are you talking about? Clinton dealt with Iraq the best way that he could. Clinton did not invade Iraq because he knew there was no way to manage the situation effectively. He knew going in that it was a quagmire waiting to happen. And how did he know that? He LISTENED to the military and they told him it was a no win situation. The best thing they could have done was to contain and use diplomacy. That is what the military wanted to do and that was exactly what they did.

Shooting a couple missiles at Iraq is a good form of diplomacy, ain't it? Maybe Clinton should have come out and said it was a no-win situation or at least not tell the whole world that Saddam had WMD and then do nothing about it.

If you want to blame someone for not getting the job done in Iraq place the blame where it really belongs, at the feet of Bush41. Bush had an international coalition in 1991 and could have easily removed Hussein from power, but he chose not to. If the most pressing issue was to get Hussein out of the way, it could have been done then and there, with international approval. Unfortunately there was the thing of maintaining Iraq and the stability of the region, even then. Bush41 knew that Iraq was better with a crippled Hussein in power than having the mayhem in the region that his removal would cause. Bush41 made the decision, and in retrospect, it was the right one. A secular Iraq was the best thing possible in region. Now that is nothing more than a pipe dream.

An Iraq where Saddam murders his own people is a better Iraq then it is now? WTF?

Do you expect democracy to be established overnight?

That's right, we do. What the public sees is about 1/10th of 1% of the information available on a given subject. The story that is released to the media looks nothing at all what the facts of the matter is. There was a boatload of information that showed that Iraq HAD WMDs, but there was also a load that said it had been destroyed. The intelligence was picked over and the stuff that supported the plan to invade was presented. The stuff that echoed the sentiments of the UN and the inspectors was buried. Congress voted on what the Bush admin presented, and what they presented was a well shaped package that was designed to make you believe one thing, which was counter to the facts. I'm not sure what you're mother taught you, but mine taught me that is lying.

And if it had been destroyed, why did Saddam chase away the weapons inspectors? Again, and again, and again. Before they could destroy the weapons

I guess I have to ask you, if the American evidence was so damning, why did it not convince anyone else in the security council and in the general assembly when Powell presented it? I'll save you the time. Because it conflicted with the intelligence that other nations had, that's why.

What intelligence? The intelligence that Russia, France and Germany were in bed with Saddam?

Oil for food? You know it wasn't only the American companies.

That's your perogative, and its great to hear someone living in small town Alberta say as much. Too bad its not your tax money that is paying for all that is going on in Iraq. Too bad you don't live in a city of 5.5 million people with infrastructure for 2 million. Too bad you aren't subject to the grid lock that politics has caused in this country. You might have a completely different view on the subject.

And based on where I live, thats the opinion I will hold. Does the US concern me with their domestic matters? No. But their foreign policy is something will eventually effect Canada.

What's to mention? It's done. Sanctions have meen handed out. The real funny thing is that American companies got the majority of the goodies in that whole mess, but none of that has hardly been mentioned. Why is that?

So where'd the money go, if its done?