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Originally Posted by Azure
Naturally. Just like we hold Clinton responsible for not dealing with Iraq when he had the chance, right?  |
WTF are you talking about? Clinton dealt with Iraq the best way that he could. Clinton did not invade Iraq because he knew there was no way to manage the situation effectively. He knew going in that it was a quagmire waiting to happen. And how did he know that? He LISTENED to the military and they told him it was a no win situation. The best thing they could have done was to contain and use diplomacy. That is what the military wanted to do and that was exactly what they did.
If you want to blame someone for not getting the job done in Iraq place the blame where it really belongs, at the feet of Bush41. Bush had an international coalition in 1991 and could have easily removed Hussein from power, but he chose not to. If the most pressing issue was to get Hussein out of the way, it could have been done then and there, with international approval. Unfortunately there was the thing of maintaining Iraq and the stability of the region, even then. Bush41 knew that Iraq was better with a crippled Hussein in power than having the mayhem in the region that his removal would cause. Bush41 made the decision, and in retrospect, it was the right one. A secular Iraq was the best thing possible in region. Now that is nothing more than a pipe dream.
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Originally Posted by Azure
I realize what you're saying but still think that the government has information we don't have. They knew about certain things we still don't know about. Which is why the whole "no WMD found" arguement does not hold water for me.
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That's right, we do. What the public sees is about 1/10th of 1% of the information available on a given subject. The story that is released to the media looks nothing at all what the facts of the matter is. There was a boatload of information that showed that Iraq HAD WMDs, but there was also a load that said it had been destroyed. The intelligence was picked over and the stuff that supported the plan to invade was presented. The stuff that echoed the sentiments of the UN and the inspectors was buried. Congress voted on what the Bush admin presented, and what they presented was a well shaped package that was designed to make you believe one thing, which was counter to the facts. I'm not sure what you're mother taught you, but mine taught me that is lying.
I guess I have to ask you, if the American evidence was so damning, why did it not convince anyone else in the security council and in the general assembly when Powell presented it? I'll save you the time. Because it conflicted with the intelligence that other nations had, that's why.
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I know I'm going to be labeled a Bush-lover for saying that, but to me I will give the government the benefit of the doubt until its term is over. Bush still has two years left, God knows what could happen.
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That's your perogative, and its great to hear someone living in small town Alberta say as much. Too bad its not your tax money that is paying for all that is going on in Iraq. Too bad you don't live in a city of 5.5 million people with infrastructure for 2 million. Too bad you aren't subject to the grid lock that politics has caused in this country. You might have a completely different view on the subject.
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When those two years are over and Iraq is still in the same situation it is now, then will I say Bush did not justify his war.
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Why should any time frame have anything to do with justifying the war? Good lord, that's weak. And how about America? How the situation IT is in? Shouldn't the President of the United States be first concerned about what goes on in his country? There are so many things in the country that are dog**** it isn't even funny, but Bush is still blowin' a billion and a half dollars a day over in Iraq.
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Funny that no one mentions Oil-for-Food......
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What's to mention? It's done. Sanctions have meen handed out. The real funny thing is that American companies got the majority of the goodies in that whole mess, but none of that has hardly been mentioned. Why is that?