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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
Well, if they lied you haven't proven it in this thead. As I said above, I don't think they needed to lie. You will again ignore that part of my response won't you.
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Is it a lie when someone says "I know this to be a fact" but they don't know it to be a fact?
I think Rumsfeld has been lying because the things he stated that were unequivocally fact were not fact and he knew it all along that questions remained.
He and George weren't saying "well maybe Iraq has a large stockpile of WMDs", the were saying "Iraq has a large stockpile of WMDs". They weren't saying "we have a hunch Saddam is connected to Osama and his friends" they were saying "he is connected to Osama and his friends, and September 11th taught us...".
Both those guys knew questions remained and none of this stuff absolute but they both said it was absolute. In other words, they were, you know, not telling the truth.