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Originally Posted by ynwa03
I don't get this point of view that Roy and other players have good things to say about Hartley so, therefore, anything Scott Parker has to say is not relevant.
To compare Roy's view of Hartley to Parker's is totally pointless. Roy was a superstar goalkeeper and Parker was a tough guy used to intimidate the other team. Do you think Hartley would ever in his wildest dreams tell Roy that he might end up in Hershey after a bad game? Why not? Because you probably can't replace Roy like you can a plug. You can't single out a player and call him names because you can replace him.
What I don't like about this is the way Parker claims Hartley spoke to him. I don't care if you are Wayne Gretzky or Scott Parker, a coach should not be belittling you by calling you names and forcing you to fight.
People need to read the article, because Parker specifically says he is not in any lawsuit and knew then, and knows now the consequences of fighting. He is still pro-fighting. The problem is the kind of language Hartley used and the way in which Parker claims he was treated. I know some will say 'suck it up' and 'it happens all the time' but if Parker was your son you probably would think twice before ragging on the guy. It doesn't seem to me like he really wants anything out of this. Not to mention the negative affects this kind of thing would have in the dressing room.
Something just seems off about Hartley and this kind of stuff coming out doesn't help.
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But coming from a player that was known throughout his career as a dirty bully? Rings a little hollow either way.
Roy and Tanguay both liked him, Parker didn't. It's all irrelevant, but if you're going to make one statement relevant you have to take into the account of the others. Parker was always a punk, and would have had no career at all were he not a tough guy. Tanguay however? Neither of those things, and still found a fit with Hartley.
Not that this matters at all, but how do people think Roy talks to his players? or Torts? What do you think will happen if MacT steps behind the bench? We've all heard those guys go off plenty of times, you think they get nicer in the locker room? The way Hartley carries himself is commonplace in the NHL. This is not some shocking revelation, nor should it be treated as such. The locker room is a hard place with unfiltered speech. There have been countless coaches who have an edge to them, but for a player to come out and say he was bullied? Ridiculous.
Just look at the Miami Dolphons situation, with pretty much everyone turning on the guy who came out and said he was bullied. That situation is MUCH worse than this one. This is basic, run of the mill stuff.
If there is one thing we can, for an absolute fact surmise from this article, is that Hartley (at least once) treated a dirty player with an attitude poorly. No other assumptions can or should be made. Hell, he's told Grats, Jackman, and possibly Bouma not to fight. Doesn't really match up with the man Parker makes him out to be.