[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Again, you sound mysteriously like a Priest to me. It seems for someone who thinks they are closer to an Atheist view, you come out sounding much more like a fundamentalist. Just because someone does not like Theism does NOT mean they are against the Theists as people.
The unfortunate thing about organized religion—all religions—is the fundamentalists within it who won’t be satisfied until all people accept their way of life and worship; and they are willing to go to violent extremes to achieve that goal. When this “religious” element’s “moral values” become the basis for governmental involvement and the policies which follow, the innocents of the world community ends up suffering.
That includes you and me and all of those who blindly follow along.
If Christianity and other Theisms were founded on myth, then why teach them as fact? Why feed fuel to the fire?

Which is my point exactly. Why is it that YOU are able to seperate the beliefs/actions of a person or group, but the church and theists in gereral cannot and by disapproving of these actions/beliefs are teaching hate?

Humanism is starting to sound like my kind of train of thought, you can use a double standard any time you want and then blame the other guy.
And why is it that Atheist extremists cannot be dangerous fundamentalists as well? Was not the holocaust an example of this? A non religious group using religion as a basis for persocution? Seems to me a disrespect for religion can be just as dangerous.

"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together."
-Adolf Hitler July 11th 1941

So perhaps Atheism and Religion are just two sides of the coin. I wonder what we can call a fundamentalist Humanist? Hmmmm...i would suggest cheese head, but I think packer fans would be offended.