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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
Just because you think something is wrong doesn't mean you are preaching hate towards it.
The standard point of the catholic church has always been hate the sin, not the sinner, and encourages people to forgive those who ahve sinned be it being gay, or whatever else the chuch deems to be wrong.
As to the hell bit, just because you say someone is going to be punished if they don't change doesn't mean you're preaching hate against them.
I think litterers should be punished, but that doesn't mean I think everyone should hate them. If it's boorish for me to suggest you don't like Catholics, why is it perfectly fine for you to suggest that the church preaches hate against those they disagree with, or is this just another example of what appears to be the humanis attitude of condemning people for doing exactly what it is you yourself do?
As for some of the horrible things in the catholic's church's past, I'm fully aware of them, in fact i alluded to that in a previous post. But again, those acts were abuses that did not follow the spirit or modern teachings of the church.
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Again, you sound mysteriously like a Priest to me. It seems for someone who thinks they are closer to an Atheist view, you come out sounding much more like a fundamentalist. Just because someone does not like Theism does NOT mean they are against the Theists as people.
The unfortunate thing about organized religion—all religions—is the fundamentalists within it who won’t be satisfied until all people accept their way of life and worship; and they are willing to go to violent extremes to achieve that goal. When this “religious” element’s “moral values” become the basis for governmental involvement and the policies which follow, the innocents of the world community ends up suffering.
That includes you and me and all of those who blindly follow along.
If Christianity and other Theisms were founded on myth, then why teach them as fact? Why feed fuel to the fire?