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Calgary4LIfe · 11-17-2013, 05:46 PM

From the little I know about Ho-Sang, he is this year's Shinkaruk - though apparently not the goal scorer Shinkaruk is. People complain that he constantly tries to do everything himself and refuses to pass the puck too much. Extremely selfish with tunnel-vision, but elite skills. I have only seen him play once last year, and he seemed alright, but that was what some fans were saying about him. Seems like a bit of a headcase.

I am liking Dal Colle more and more. LW'er though - our deepest position in terms of higher-end prospects (though nothing is guaranteed). He played center last year, but got moved to LW, and I think is now seen as a LW'er.

I still prefer Reinhart at this time - seems like a clone of Monahan in a number of ways. I am a bit wary of Ekblad ever since I heard the "sometimes guys who are so physically mature compared to their peers don't always translate well at all at the NHL level, as they have molded their game around this advantage too much". Right now, he is #3 on my list.

Reinhart
Dal Colle
Ekblad

Nylander would be a great story (born in Calgary, son of a former Calgary Player) and he is a fantastic player. Just too many small guys. This team needs to be big up front as well as skilled. Gaudreau and even Baertschi are no 'guarantees' to be part of that staple in the top 6, but when you are drafting so high that is when you can take the guys that have both size and skill. Drafting the bigger guys in the mid-round leaves you without a lot of skill, and drafting skilled guys without size leaves you as a talented but small team (of course, just 'averages' - there are plenty of guys in both sizes who have had fantastic careers being drafted outside the 1st round, not to mention as a mid-late 1st rounder).

I still stand behind my dislike of Brian Burke, but he will help ensure this team follows-through with Feaster's words about needing to get bigger and more physical (said before the Burke announcement). I really think they will shy away from Nylander.

I do think the Flames will end up finishing in the bottom 5 - Buffalo is practically assured the last spot, and you still have more teams in the east that could easily fall below that mark.

Flames have been playing mostly decent-to-great teams since the start of the season, and are starting to really show the effects. I think they will stabilize somewhat after they play more eastern teams, but they will really be relegated to the bottom 5 I would think. You can definitely select a franchise player out of the bunch, and hopefully it is someone with size.

Edmonton ended up selecting a lot of smaller guys (bit of bad-luck with whom the 1st over-alls were available as a group in the last few years regarding size, horrible drafting not to find anything else to help beyond the 1st over-alls in that department). People are quick to point out the follies of Edmonton - namely defence and net. However, just as big of a deficiency in their make-up is that they are weak down the middle, and small on the top 6.

I think the world of Jankowski, and see that he COULD develop into a wonderful 1st line center - but I am also not counting on it. That is why the Flames 'need' to draft Reinhart to assure enough depth up the middle. If they are unlucky/lucky (depending on how you see things) to draft McDavid the following year, you do it and move a center to the wing, or trade one to fill holes. Young 1st line center players command a king's ransom.

Will be interesting what other prospects shoot up the draft this year. There are always a few that really pick up the ball and show their quality after perhaps being forced down the depth charts from previous players that have graduated. Will also be interesting to see how many more picks the Flames acquire. I really hope that the Flames end up with another 1st for the 2015 draft just in the hopes of having another team finish outside the playoffs.

11-17-2013, 05:46 PM	#163
Calgary4LIfe Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Exp:	From the little I know about Ho-Sang, he is this year's Shinkaruk - though apparently not the goal scorer Shinkaruk is. People complain that he constantly tries to do everything himself and refuses to pass the puck too much. Extremely selfish with tunnel-vision, but elite skills. I have only seen him play once last year, and he seemed alright, but that was what some fans were saying about him. Seems like a bit of a headcase. I am liking Dal Colle more and more. LW'er though - our deepest position in terms of higher-end prospects (though nothing is guaranteed). He played center last year, but got moved to LW, and I think is now seen as a LW'er. I still prefer Reinhart at this time - seems like a clone of Monahan in a number of ways. I am a bit wary of Ekblad ever since I heard the "sometimes guys who are so physically mature compared to their peers don't always translate well at all at the NHL level, as they have molded their game around this advantage too much". Right now, he is #3 on my list. Reinhart Dal Colle Ekblad Nylander would be a great story (born in Calgary, son of a former Calgary Player) and he is a fantastic player. Just too many small guys. This team needs to be big up front as well as skilled. Gaudreau and even Baertschi are no 'guarantees' to be part of that staple in the top 6, but when you are drafting so high that is when you can take the guys that have both size and skill. Drafting the bigger guys in the mid-round leaves you without a lot of skill, and drafting skilled guys without size leaves you as a talented but small team (of course, just 'averages' - there are plenty of guys in both sizes who have had fantastic careers being drafted outside the 1st round, not to mention as a mid-late 1st rounder). I still stand behind my dislike of Brian Burke, but he will help ensure this team follows-through with Feaster's words about needing to get bigger and more physical (said before the Burke announcement). I really think they will shy away from Nylander. I do think the Flames will end up finishing in the bottom 5 - Buffalo is practically assured the last spot, and you still have more teams in the east that could easily fall below that mark. Flames have been playing mostly decent-to-great teams since the start of the season, and are starting to really show the effects. I think they will stabilize somewhat after they play more eastern teams, but they will really be relegated to the bottom 5 I would think. You can definitely select a franchise player out of the bunch, and hopefully it is someone with size. Edmonton ended up selecting a lot of smaller guys (bit of bad-luck with whom the 1st over-alls were available as a group in the last few years regarding size, horrible drafting not to find anything else to help beyond the 1st over-alls in that department). People are quick to point out the follies of Edmonton - namely defence and net. However, just as big of a deficiency in their make-up is that they are weak down the middle, and small on the top 6. I think the world of Jankowski, and see that he COULD develop into a wonderful 1st line center - but I am also not counting on it. That is why the Flames 'need' to draft Reinhart to assure enough depth up the middle. If they are unlucky/lucky (depending on how you see things) to draft McDavid the following year, you do it and move a center to the wing, or trade one to fill holes. Young 1st line center players command a king's ransom. Will be interesting what other prospects shoot up the draft this year. There are always a few that really pick up the ball and show their quality after perhaps being forced down the depth charts from previous players that have graduated. Will also be interesting to see how many more picks the Flames acquire. I really hope that the Flames end up with another 1st for the 2015 draft just in the hopes of having another team finish outside the playoffs.