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Old 10-25-2013, 08:09 AM   #45
strombad
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher View Post
Scott and McGrattan are enforcers.

Jackman is just a 4th line grinder who's fought when the Flames didn't have anybody else to step up. He's not really a great fighter and he's not a goon. He's just a meat and potatoes hard nosed grinder. Bouma is a similar player IMO.

Different types of players in my opinion.
Well, as a 4th line grinder and not as a goon, he plays less than Scott and had more fights than Scott last year. We can nitpick, but if your definition of enforcer is the same as most, Jackman has played that role more than Scott has recently.

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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache View Post
McGrattan has neither grabbed another team's star for an involuntary fight nor taken a run at another star for a cheap head shot. We are perhaps too distracted by TOI and perceived role than what these guys do with those few minutes.
Or perhaps we are too distracted by unique situations. McGrattan hasn't shown to have much of a dirty side to him any time recently, but Jackman has as many times as Scott has. Unique situations do not make them all different or the same, my point is that their play away from these one-off situations is what makes them the same. Plus, we can go over the Scott/Kessel thing again, but Scott never touched Kessel, he simply dropped his gloves and was ready to go.

I'm not defending Scott here, to be clear, but I am saying that if we want to get out players LIKE Scott, we should be prepared to lose Grats and Jackman. They might not be the same by a particular definition, but they have the same role on the team and are depended on in the exact same ways. It's great being Flames fans and thinking that our guys aren't like THAT guy, but they are. As I said before, Jackman fights more than Scott, and just the season has delivered a headshot and used his stick as a weapon. IMO, completely classless, and that whole general "type" of player really has no place in hockey.
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