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Old 10-22-2013, 06:12 PM   #1333
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Especially when I have yet to meet a friend, colleague, co-worker who hasn't been burnt by a developer/house builder. They know that the second that house is delivered they are outta there (as much as possible), they know their economic outlook of builders is 6 months to 1 years tops, why they go into receivership daily. You know they aren't looking beyond a few years.

I don't fault the developers for this though, this is the set of rules and they play within them, they answer to their shareholders/themselves, the city answers to the voters who assumes they are entering deals to gain control of a new development that is cash flow positive (beyond the first 5 years when everything is brand new).

The folks in Tuscany are in the same boat as Sunnyside, the genie is out of the bottle. The reason that the guy in Douglasdale and Mackenzie have a brutal commute now is because they built new brighton and copperfield, and Cranston and auburn bay and seton and I'm probably missing 14 neighborhoods I don't know about and are in the works.

Can people not see that if that brutality continues the operating cost to maintain the triple decker highway, along with the roads and sewers and new plants that will be insane?

Why are people opposed to this? How many people are considering moving further out, less than 1% of people? Fata them? and $3000, that's not going to do anything, should be $100k and we put it in trust.
Where do you put the people?? What % should be infill growth. Also the new communities aren't the cause of sprawl. LOT SIZE is the cause of sprawl. the Suburbs are far denser then the communities of the 60's,70's,80's and 90's if you want to tax the operating costs of sprawl tax based on the square footage of land you occupy.

Also eliminate zoning restrictions for basement suites, high rises, and multiplexes that will increase density. Look at the towers they built in brentwood. They were supposed to be taller but community associations protested and eventually were given into. Decisions like these force sprawl. To me it is hypocritical whenever soemone in the inner city complains about projects that increase density at the same time as complaining about buidling overpasses for the burbs.

Also plenty of people in the burbs work where they live and don't commute. These people should not be penalized just because they chose to live and work in a suburb. There costs are likely similar to inner city costs. If you really want to price the transportation costs we need to bring in density based tolls, eliminate transit subsidies and significantly reduce property taxes. This way the externalities of the decisions are passed on to the user.
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