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Originally Posted by transplant99
Disagree. Orr changed how his position was played/viewed...Gretz changed everything.
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Well then you're wrong.
Orr was arguably the best player to have ever played, a lot of people have no problem with that statement. Gretzky was around when the NHL was changing, in a decade where North America changed considerably. It's the era of marketing and merchandising, and Gretzky was around for it.
He meant a lot to the NHL, so did Orr, but Orr was the best player of all time.
Even Mario was near as proficient as Gretzky was offensively, so you can't just rest on his stats and say "oh best ever no doubt!". You can say he's better than Crosby, of course, but if you can't admit that Orr and Mario were right there with him, in a near interchangeable mix of 3, then you're being silly.
If there's one thing I have noticed lately, it's that guys come jerking their gerk about how young guys don't know, and they go and make equally naive statements.