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Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19
Well, I don't think I will simply because I have other things I'd rather spend my time on, but feel free to give me the coles notes version of the circumstances in which a rape victim will act as if s/he is a fully consenting participant who is enjoying the experience and actually not be consenting.
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Fear and coercion are the primary reasons. Fear can encompass a wide variety of things from fear of physical assault, to fear of pissing off a significant other, etc.
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Sure, but by that point you're pretty much engaged in the act, aren't you? What I meant was it's a bit awkward to ask permission beforehand, in the lead-up. It strikes me as an odd scenario for a guy to ask a girl if she likes what he's doing mid-coitus, and have her say no, I didn't want you to do this - why not say so beforehand? Do you really need to be asked first?
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I don't know, I've always found stuff "You want me to blah blah your blah blah" or some similar vernacular during the clothes on period has never hurt my chances.
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I realize this topic is a minefield but there has to be some sort of middle ground of sanity here. Is the word "yes" endowed with some magical significance? If someone can indicate in every non-verbal way imaginable, that they are a consensual participant in sexual congress, but not actually consent, why can they not also say "yes" without consenting?
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Right, and I think I did stray a little off course and confused people a bit. There are obviously heat of the moment things that happen, or if you're with someone you're familiar with, etc., where people are mutually consenting via their own physical interactions. My point was more for the one guy who basically said "No doesn't alway mean no." If a chick says "no" then stop. If you're unsure, ask.