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Originally Posted by moon
Based on what exactly?
Monahan was just picked 6th in a supposed deep draft, Jankowski was picked 21st in a supposed average draft. Monahan is looked at as a virtual lock to be 1st line center on the WJHC team and Jankowski is a long shot to make the team.
I know many people have bought into the Jankowski is boom or bust so boom means he is going to be great if he hits but I haven't read a single reliable prospect report on him to indicate he has a higher ceiling or more skill than Monahan.
He certainly hasn't shown it to this point in their respective careers so what are you basing him having more skill and a higher upside than Monahan on?
Also do you honestly think if Jankowski was drafted by the Oilers/Canucks and Monahan was still a Flames prospect you would have the same view about them?
I am basing my ranking on Jankowski on my outlook that there is no way he has the same ceiling as Monahan let alone a higher ceiling. I think absolute best case scenario (baring crazy situation a la St. Louis where guy takes huge jump that nobody saw coming) Jankowski turns into decent 50 point 2nd line center. I think likely he turns into a guy that gets 20-40 games because of where he was picked and spends most of career in Euro leagues.
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Why bring up how they compare right now? Do you know the difference between a project pick, and one that isn't? Monahan was never a project pick. He was touted as a guy that could very well be ready to step into the NHL and contribute straight from the draft. WJC? I guess to you, all prospects follow a very linear path of development, and if they take longer they are complete busts? Is that why you brought up the WJC, since it had absolutely nothing to do with the point.
You originally lumped Jankowski in with more 'depth' prospects like Knight, Reinhart, Horak (forgot who else and lazy to look it up). My point is that Jankowski has a WAY higher offensive ceiling, and arguably moreso than Monahan.
Look up his scouting reports - comparables: Nieuwendyk and Spezza. He has an elite offensive ceiling - that is coming from scouting services. But he is a project pick and will take longer to develop, with a possibility of busting.
I don't know how else to explain it to you. You keep pointing to 'now', when I have already stated that right now, Monahan is the VASTLY superior prospect (it isn't even close). I guess you don't see that projects (like Gaudreau was) can really have very high offensive ceilings but need much more time to develop into NHL players (and are much more likely to bust).
Thanks for insinuating the whole 'fanboy' stuff though. Yes, if Jankowski was a prospect on Van, I would be as high on him (as long as I took as much time to research and watch him). I think Van did outstanding in drafting Horvat, and I am pretty sure I have stated on this board that he will probably end up being a future captain (though doubtful he will be a #1 center). Don't really see the point of calling anyone a 'fanboy' on a Flames message board discussing the prospects.
You don't like Jankowski, I guess we will just leave it at that. I am not (and never did) say he WILL be Calgary's 1st line elite center, or that he WILL (much less IS) better than Monahan - but you took what you wanted to justify your position when all I argued is that he is arguably the highest offensive ceiling center..
Nicely done though. You made me write a long rant out of trying to explain myself better. LoL.