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Lanny_MacDonald · 04-30-2006, 10:22 AM

The majority of information coming out around this film is the typical rah-rah bull**** you would expect from America and from Hollywood. But there is also new information coming forward about the day, as the truth starts to percolate to the surface. Found this in a review of the movie outlining the way a few of us suspected it unfolded.

As an Air Traffic Controller working at Cleveland Center that morning, I'd like to add a few things that the general public will never know about UAL93.

No, I was not the controller working the flight. I was working the airspace to the west of that sector at Flight Levels 310 to FL370 (31,000 ft to 37,000 ft). At the time of United 93 checking in with the Lorain Sector, I was busy setting up a holding pattern for 3 flights I was working to NY, 2 flights to Newark and 1 flight to La Guardia. We had already learned about the World Trade Center at the time, and actually, New York Center was no longer accepting traffic, hence my holding pattern.

Once United 93's fate was made aware of, everyone in the center had "Quick Looked" or was watching that flight. Unbeknownst to the hi-jackers, it is possible to track a flight once the transponder is turned off.

In any case, here is my point of this post. First off, it is quite impossible to actually know what went on inside that aircraft. While I am sure that many heroic actions were about to take place, how do we actually know what happened. This is simply another Hollywood sensationalism of a known event. Everything associated with the ATC aspect of this movie was fabricated.

Here is my final point of this post. Here is something that the US Government, expecially this administration, will NEVER EVER let you know about. We air traffic controllers know for a fact that 2 fully loaded F16's were scrambled from the Youngstown Ohio Air National Guard base. These 2 F16's were within striking range when UAL93 came down. We also know that wreckage was found more than a mile away from the main crash site.

I am not making any claims here, but many of us know this fact. The general public does not and may never know this info. Make your own conclusions.

Anyone surprised by this revelation? Anyone still questioning the Pentagon attack and the lack of wreckage in comparison to this incident?

04-30-2006, 10:22 AM	#1
Lanny_MacDonald Lifetime Suspension Join Date: Oct 2001 Exp:	United 93, opening old wounds and exposing some truth? The majority of information coming out around this film is the typical rah-rah bull**** you would expect from America and from Hollywood. But there is also new information coming forward about the day, as the truth starts to percolate to the surface. Found this in a review of the movie outlining the way a few of us suspected it unfolded. As an Air Traffic Controller working at Cleveland Center that morning, I'd like to add a few things that the general public will never know about UAL93. No, I was not the controller working the flight. I was working the airspace to the west of that sector at Flight Levels 310 to FL370 (31,000 ft to 37,000 ft). At the time of United 93 checking in with the Lorain Sector, I was busy setting up a holding pattern for 3 flights I was working to NY, 2 flights to Newark and 1 flight to La Guardia. We had already learned about the World Trade Center at the time, and actually, New York Center was no longer accepting traffic, hence my holding pattern. Once United 93's fate was made aware of, everyone in the center had "Quick Looked" or was watching that flight. Unbeknownst to the hi-jackers, it is possible to track a flight once the transponder is turned off. In any case, here is my point of this post. First off, it is quite impossible to actually know what went on inside that aircraft. While I am sure that many heroic actions were about to take place, how do we actually know what happened. This is simply another Hollywood sensationalism of a known event. Everything associated with the ATC aspect of this movie was fabricated. Here is my final point of this post. Here is something that the US Government, expecially this administration, will NEVER EVER let you know about. We air traffic controllers know for a fact that 2 fully loaded F16's were scrambled from the Youngstown Ohio Air National Guard base. These 2 F16's were within striking range when UAL93 came down. We also know that wreckage was found more than a mile away from the main crash site. I am not making any claims here, but many of us know this fact. The general public does not and may never know this info. Make your own conclusions. Anyone surprised by this revelation? Anyone still questioning the Pentagon attack and the lack of wreckage in comparison to this incident?