[WilderPegasus]

Originally Posted by strombad

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- Find where I say "retired from the NHL", I simply said retired, as in, retired from hockey.

How am I supposed to know what you mean when you defend yourself with vague and misleading language?

Even then none of those three guys are retired from hockey. They are still working in hockey. Maybe you meant retired from playing hockey. Or retired from playing NHL hockey.

Although your assertion goes from actual NHL player as in this statement from you:

I take big issue with your assertion that you, or anybody else, might know more about the role of fighting in the NHL than actual NHL players.

Since Shero never played a game in the NHL I don't think anyone is going to think of him as an actual NHL player but both Yzerman and Rutherford have played NHL games so they are only two of the three in the title you can logically disqualify from your previous statement when you decide to define actual NHL players as active NHL players with this:

As well, how relevant are the opinions of two guys who haven't played a game since the 80's and now have desk jobs on how fighting actually affects players?

Even then it is a silly statement if you are talking about Shero and Rutherford. Both of them have Stanley Cup rings in their roles as GM so they would clearly understand hockey well enough to know how fighting affects the sport.

- Find where I say Burrows wasn't invited to the World Championships. Find where I discussed the World Championships as opposed to the Olympics.

I say there's no goons in the Olympics and World Championships. You say there are no Burrows type players in the Olympics. I point out he played in the World Championships. You're not wrong but you're doing a horrible job in attacking my argument and making yourself look foolish because you're not disproving my statements.

- Find where I said a goon is required in hockey, at all. Go ahead. Find it.

You said actual NHL players know best. It has been stated in this thread that actual NHL players like having the goons around to police the game. Either you think NHL players don't know best and you're contradicting yourself or you know better than actual NHL players and you think goons don't belong in the game. Which is it?

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I have a point. My point is that your posts are a waste of time because they are full of poor arguments and contradictions. You defend yourself with vague language that you can later reinterpret anyway you which to poorly defend your statements.