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Originally Posted by ricardodw
After 60 games Stempniak to have 20 goals? That would mean he is scoring at a 27 goal in a full season pace...
In his last 3 season he has scored at 19, 19 and 15 rates..... This is if he played all 82 games which becomes more difficult on the other side of 30.
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Last season Stempniak was on pace for 56 points. He may or may not have hit that mark but he had a good season. Perhaps better than his 09-10 season where he had 28 goals in the regular season but only had 48 points.
Stempniak is a bit of a streaky player but he has shown an ability to score when he is hot and if the Flames can show that he is hot with 20 goals by the trade deadline then that would likely increase his value from a 3rd to something more.
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
He has been a disappointment in the playoffs far under-performing his regular season performance.
The best hope for him, realistically is a 3rd round pick.
I sure as heck don't want to miss the opportunity for developing the Flames prospects for a shot at an extra 3rd round pick.
Setoguchi younger bigger and better than Stempniak cost the Jets a 2nd round pick.
Frolick a 3rd and a 5th.
I will agree that force feeding Cammalleri (a proven playoff guy) would raise his value and liable to get a 1st round pick at the deadline.
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Setoguchi was traded in July from a team that was in serious cap troubles and needed to unload a player. I would say that Setoguchi is a much better player than Moore but Moore kept getting traded at the deadline for 2nd round picks.
Frolik is also a player that was traded in the summer from a team that was in cap trouble and needed to unload salary.
The timing and the situation surrounding the trade is as important to be aware of as players and the value of their return. Players value tends to go up at the trade deadline, especially if you can get a bidding war going for a player that can fill in anywhere from the 1st to 3rd line.
So while it is fun bashing away at Stempniak's history, what I am much more interested in is what the value of his trade could be should he have 20 goals marked off by the deadline. Playing first line minutes on a line that is clicking, he could surprise and end up on pace for 60+ points.
Regardless of his history, that kind of pace drives up his value to something closer to a 1st than a 3rd. Maybe 2 2nds from a team that wants to add depth for a cup run.