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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Listen everybody, I know I come across as a pedantic, rude jerk on this topic but it's hard to be arguing the exact same effing points and dealing with the same refudiations of the science over the past 10 years. Meanwhile, the science has only solidified and the likelihood of disaster gets more and more real. This is the defining issue of our civilization.
I'd really just recommend this video by Dave Roberts http://grist.org/author/david-roberts/ . In it he basically summarizes the science on the imperative of action. (hell read his blog, he's the most down to earth person who understands the crisis of climate)
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Bull. That wasn't summarizing any science, that was summarizing the summaries, taking all science out of the discussion, and making assumptions that you will believe what he is saying as "coming from the mouths of experts".
I don't know what to think about climate change. I think some action is a good thing, because it has other positives as well. I think that there is some scientific consensus on the fact that it is happening. I think humans play a strong role in it.
BUT - there is no such thing as consensus regarding economics of this level. You think that because there is scientific consensus on the fact that temperature is rising, that because people buy that, we therefore have to swallow the rest of what you are saying whole? Bull. No one fully understands economics as well as that. No one fully understands the
effects of climate change on such a complex system as the entire earth, much less on the human economy. The fact that it is happening, yeah. We can get that. but when shock doctors like this guy claim "best case scenario, hell on earth", that's total crap. What's worse, that makes me even LESS inclined to do anything, cause, you know, hell on earth is the best case scenario. Might as well get rich instead of trying to fix the unfixable.
I mean, if "hell on earth" is the best case scenario, then perhaps a limited nuclear winter might be the best solution to this problem? I mean, if I am supposed to believe you and this guy, after all.