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Originally Posted by Circa89
Okay I'll let this go right after this last point.
You say it cost $40 Billion that would otherwise not be spent. Yes it would be spent! Lots of money still gets spent on people's care wether they are wholesome perfect health conscious indiviuals or not. The money would still be spent, end of story.
Car Insurance is not a good paralel. it fact its terrible
If you don't get into an accident it cost $0 right?
Well guess what, we will all die (get into the accident) eventually no matter how carefully we drive.
Enough is enough. I see your side and understand where you are coming from I just don't agree with the numbers thats all.
Its almost 5:00 I must stop chating, get a little work done so I can watch some Hockey!
Cheers
Nice debating with you
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MY GOD YOU ARE FRUSTRATING TO DEAL WITH.
The fact is that due to things like cigarettes the number of people who die due to illness such as cancer is higher than it would be withou cigarettes. Cancer is very expensive to treat. Without cigarettes we would have less of the expensive chronic problems to treat. THAT IS A FACT.
Yes we all die, but people who smoke tend to die in ways that are a lot more expensive, and you simply saying "We all die so the money would be spent anyway" is just wrong.
If smoking gives me cancer then my death will be prolonged and cost the system quite a bit. But if I don't smoke and don't get cancer, and die of something else, say a heart attack, my death essentially costs the healthcare system nothing.
See, dying prolonged chronic illness = expensive
Dying of "Natural causes" = not expensive
More smoking = more prolonged chronic illness
Therefore
More smoking = more expensive deaths = greater cost to heathcare system.
BTW, I don't know why it is you are saying nice degating with me, because I have yet to see a post of yours that shows any semblance of actual debate. Simply "Not agreeing with the numbers" isnt' debating, it's ignorance.
For interests sake here are other things you can debate with me if you "Don't beleive the numbers"
1+1=2
3<4
2*4=8