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Originally Posted by New Era
Where do you draw the line? Who gets to draw that line?
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1. Players who should be playing in the NHL are those who are skilled enough to play in the NHL. 2. The League, the players, and the coaches should be the ones making this determination.
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Originally Posted by New Era
If you're going to eliminate the goon you need to eliminate the #### disturber because one is used to keep the other in check.
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Why not just crack down hard on unwanted intentional acts to injure?
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Originally Posted by New Era
That is part of the game of chess that goes on prior to the face off and during the play.
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I call BS. The proof behind such a statement would require extensive study, and cannot be drawn anecdotally from casual observation. I know that this is the well-worn belief, but I suspect it is little more than a myth in reality. In short, I am highly sceptical that the presence of a goon on the ice has little impact at all on the behaviour and conduct of opposing team members. Remove them from the game, and I expect that the impact on the "game of chess" would be completely negligible.
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Originally Posted by New Era
I would like to know what your take on Devane, a 6'5 230 pound goon, with no hockey ability what so ever, beating the crap out of 6'0 185 pound Tropp, who was a 2nd year pro out of college, where they don't fight! See a similarity there?
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I have been pretty clear in each of my posts: If he can't play hockey at an NHL level, then he has no business on the ice in a NHL game.
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Originally Posted by New Era
You may want to take a look at rosters around the league to see that the enforcer isn't dying. The Leafs sat two of the biggest goons and still had one in the lineup to handle matters like these. I'd love to see these guys go the way of the dodo, but the reality is that they are here to stay as long as the antagonist role exists.
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No, they are here to stay so long as the League insists on promoting and sustaining the culture that provides for their presence. As soon as there is a will to get rid of enforcers, they will be gone.
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Originally Posted by New Era
Does this have to be written in fragmented ancient Greek for you to make an inference of what is going to happen? Come on, you've been watching hockey for years and you know how the game is played, especially in pre-season. There was no way Carlyle was putting his guys out there to score. He knew Scott was going to drop his mitts the second the puck left the linesman's hand. The only thing he had to do was to control the situation and throw someone out there to fight the guy and diffuse the situation.
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Fair enough (although, ancient Greek is not my strongest suit).