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Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard
No, a person with suicidal ideations is not a ticking time bomb that is going to eventually go off. There are plenty of people who have had thoughts of suicide (myself included actually) who have no plans to actually commit suicide. I think it is offensive to think that saying that people who don't view someone as a "ticking time bomb" are ignoring the problem. I am not ignoring it but I also know that it doesn't guarantee that an individual with suicidal ideations is going to attempt to commit suicide.
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Thoughts of suicide is a cry for help. While it may not mean a person is going to do it it does mean there a problem that needs to be treated. That person also has to watched closely and in this case it appears she wasn't.
You may think it isn't productive but in my view it raises questions why someone with a history of depression and suicide attemps got to a state where she killed her children.
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Do I think that there are gaps in mental health care provided to people in Alberta (and the world in general) absolutely. Do I think that I would want to go out, not knowing the facts and blindly state that the health care system is to blame for this, no. I do know that there is screening for PPD and suicidal ideations during healthy beginnings appointments when a nurse will go around to the house and an Edinburgh Postpartum Depression Scale (an evidence based scale) is administered. If there are red flags they are put into contact with a mental health professional, as well as peer supports such as new mothers groups are available to the mother. The fact is though that if someone is not an imminent risk to themselves or others they can not be detained under a form in the Alberta Mental Health Act.
It is tragic what happened here but at the end of the day to blindly state that the health care system failed her and her children isn't a productive approach. Especially since there are a great number of services that exist for women who do have PPD. Are they 100% effective, no of course not, but absolutely no treatment in all of medicine is.
http://www.albertahealthservices.ca/...rvice&rid=7624
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Do you have any proof she was suffering from PPD. Or are you making assumptions like me?
I do understand about someone not being a risk to themselves or others. However during the trial it was reported.... " Since the drownings, McConnell has made numerous suicide attempts." "Officers also found a rope tied to a joist in the basement. A chair was sitting underneath." "On the morning of Feb. 1, 2010, McConnell drove to Edmonton, parked at a toy store, ordered lunch and then tried to kill herself by jumping off a bridge onto a busy freeway." How is someone like that released and deported?