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Old 09-13-2013, 10:23 AM   #240
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Originally Posted by FanIn80 View Post
All the years of arguing about Apple products, and people still haven't figured out that the people who buy the damn things just don't give a sh*t about what people think about the price. We see value in what we're getting, and that's the only thing that matters. Maybe you don't put as much stock into some of the intangibles that are part of the deal. Who knows? More importantly, who cares? If you want it, buy it. If you don't want it, don't buy it.
This is so inaccurate. I owned nothing made by Apple for the first 30 years of my life (except for a hand-me-down Mac for a year or so in the mid-90s, but I didn't use it much). Then the iPhone came out. My wife and I have each owned three (we still have a 4 we use as an iPod in a Bose music player in our kitchen). We also have a classic iPod, a nano, a shuffle, two iPads, two Apple TVs and a MacBook Pro. The iPhone was our gateway drug into the ecosystem.

Everything we bought during our time with Apple was cutting edge and, IMO, offered great value because the competitors were so far behind, it's not even fair to Apple to call them competitors. Apple was on its own island of awesomeness.

After an unfortunate accident that killed one of our two iPads last year, I set off to the Apple store to replace it. This was right when the Nexus 7 came out. From what I could tell it was better than the iPad in every way and for less than half the price. It was a no brainer (for an unbiased person) to go with the Nexus 7 and I've been happy with it ever since.

Same with the Galaxy S3 - it was way better in every single way, shape, and form from hardware to software to price than the 4s, which was available at the time. For an unbiased person, the Apple was not compelling compared to the Samsung.

Now, if I were to buy a TV interface, the Chromcast at $35 would be much more compelling than the Apple TV, which costs three times more and is more restrictive.

So you say people that buy Apple products don't give a crap about price and you need to know you're wrong. Maybe you don't and that's what makes you a fanboi and pointless to engage in these discussions. I care a lot about price because I want the best value for my dollar with everything I buy (have you seen my rant about buying used cars versus new?).

When Apple was on top of its game a few years ago the stuff was still expensive, but the value was high because nothing out there matched it. Now, stuff is better and less expensive. Apple products right now offer a very poor value for buyers. This week's announcement reinforces that. Same outdated OS, same outdated pricing. The fingerprint thing is really cool (I don't care that it has been done poorly before) and I trust Apple has it working basically perfect or they wouldn't have released it. But I doubt that'll be enough to make many people want the phone.

The really annoying part is that Apple has so many fanbois that will defend every decision Apple makes. If these loyalists would be more critical of Apple to the point of taking their business elsewhere like I and many other people have, it would be the push Apple needs to step up their game instead of playing it safe and we'd all benefit from the better innovation and cooler devices.
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