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Old 09-08-2013, 06:00 PM   #771
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef View Post
In North America. Civil Rights, yes. Human Rights, No.
I don't see the distinction as being a clear line, and that we happen to not have gay people being imprisoned or being threatened with death is just where we happen to be socially, not a commentary on the rights issues themselves.

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I think the problem with that Bishops quote is the same as I have been saying. One is a fight for equality, the other a fight for freedom, they should not be compared.
There's no "problem" with the Bishop quote, he's quite clear that to him it's about choice. Black civil rights issues are ok because people don't choose to be black, but homosexual civil rights issues aren't valid because they choose to do homosexual activities.

When it shouldn't be about choice at all, if there was zero evidence of any genetic or environmental impact on sexual preference, it shouldn't have any relevance on the discussion about rights and how people are treated.
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