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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
the Bishop is right.
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So equality for LGBT people ISN'T a civil rights issue??
It's perfectly ok for governments and to discriminate and/or repress LGBT individuals because they are such?
So which is it? You said earlier they should't be treated the same as everyone else, but here you are saying it's fine if they are treated different than everyone else.
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
All sexual activity is a choice. Sexual preference may not be, but actually participating in (consenting) sexual activity is most definitely a choice.
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Right, and the reason people like him bring it up is so they have a hole to hide in to avoid their cognitive dissonance. They HAVE to believe it is a choice in order for it to be a sin. They have to believe it is a choice otherwise they can't explain why their god would create (or allow) homosexual people in the first place and the whole belief system would collapse.
So what relevance does sexual activity being a choice have with respect to it being a civil rights issue?
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
That is a significant difference.
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So what? You keep pointing out that things are different, but of what relevance is that? Just because a degree is different, if the comparison to the progress of women's rights is a closer fit, that doesn't make the ultimate point that gay rights aren't a civil rights issue. Why raise it at all? It's a red herring, the bishop you are quoting didn't raise the issue in that way, why are you?
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
Comparing the 2 fights is insulting to those who fought for black liberation.
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Oh please, the only person who fought for black liberation that wouldn't fully support equality for homosexuals and say it's just a continuation of the fight for equality for everyone is one bigoted against gay people. EDIT: And again this is an emotional track being used as a red herring, it isn't relevant to anything.