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Originally posted by Lanny_MacDonald@Oct 4 2004, 06:09 PM
Jesus Cow, it all depends on how the elections go. From what has been reported you have people registering to vote multiple times in Afghanistan. Is that the democratic way? Come on. We won't know if democracy is working for another 40 years. And of course the first government is going to be a puppet government. How can it be otherwise? You think that the people have had a chance to make their own nominations? You think there is equal representation? None of these foundations of democracy have been allowed to develop because there is still so much chaos in the region. The US will roll out the candidates they want and get them elected. Those "elected" officials wil then appoint who the US wants so there is a "friendly" government in place. They have done this in the past and will likely do it again. Of course we know the results of these "democracies" as well, but that is another story. If the results of the election prove to be honest and on the up and up I will be extremely happy. Unfortunately history has shown that this is very unlikely and this administration has shown a massive penchant for lying to attain their goals. Put those two together and I just don't see how this election witll be straight.
You know, for a guy that is so "down on Bush" you have a very funny way of showing it. I have not met a single person who is down on Bush and promotes the stuff you do as being good policy. How can you honestly say you are not a Bush supporter yet defend everything the administration does? My opposite here at work is a massive Bush supporter and he laughs at the stuff you post. You say that Bush is bad and that Iraq should not have been invaded, but you support the results of these actions. It doesn't make sense. How can you say one thing and then the other?
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Jesus Cow, it all depends on how the elections go.
Unfrickingbelievable that you would come back with something like that.
Making your excuses already?
Wow. That's hilarious.
"It depends on how the elections go?"
That's your answer to an INDEPENDENT opinion poll conducted by pollsters favoured by BILL CLINTON and NELSON MANDELLA showing popular support for Karzai, an indication he would win a FAIR election in a landslide?
Obviously, he's the "puppet" the people appear to want. You can hardly deny that. I've said before in this forum that the election with be chaotic, flawed and deadly but it would appear it will also render a fair verdict. I've also said before in this forum many times that Afghanistan is a generational project.
And America has the money his country needs. It would be passing strange if he weren't doing a little sucking up - with America and everyone else - to get some help for his stone age country. Or is this also part of your "leave 'em alone" principled approach to these issues, letting them wallow in their misery?
By the way, there seems to be a lot of UN and NATO people doing things in Afghanistan as well.
You are something else.
How can you honestly say you are not a Bush supporter yet defend everything the administration does?
Don't like him. Never liked him.
I like balanced budgets. I believe in the separation of church and state and consider Bush a grave danger to that concept. I've argued both points in this forum before from an anti-Bush point of view.
I agree with the decision to go to Afghanistan and Iraq but I said BEFORE the invasion of Iraq that Bush needs to be un-elected for pretty much every other reason.
I've also said in this forum before they've botched the post-war planning. One can also argue that in turfing Bush, you've at least set up the possibility of mending fences with allies and internationalizing the Iraq situation.
Problem with you is that you haven't been paying attention.
In the neo-con survey, I came out as a "realist" with a description that I'm not ideology-driven but rather I approach things on an issue-by-issue basis.
My opposite here at work is a massive Bush supporter and he laughs at the stuff you post.
Probably just nodding his head to get you off his back while he's carrying you at work as you spend all day arguing politics at Calgarypuck. Hahahaha . . . . okay, just kidding.
Cowperson