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Originally Posted by strombad
However, to make a good point, a valid and strong point, you have to debilitate the defendable aspects on the other side of the argument. One defendable aspect: cheap fine! How do you debilitate it? Point out how relatively expensive it actually is
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I guess my point is that the proper response to "one defendable aspect: cheap fine!" is "the cheapness of the fine is immaterial". One of the major problems with arguments on social issues is attempts by one of the participants to bog the discussion down in details that skirt the heart of the issue.
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your argument isn't going to catch much ground with the "other" side. Just a heads up.
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We appear to have different goals. I don't particularly expect that any "other" side represented in this thread is likely to be swayed. If they are, and the basis for that change of heart is "oh, well I thought this law was fine but now that I see it imposes financial hardship that crosses the line that exists in my mind with respect to what is an acceptable amount to fine someone for telling people that homosexuality is a normal, acceptable thing, I'm now opposed", the point has been missed and they haven't altered their views in any meaningful way.
Incidentally my post was intended to echo yours with an addendum, rather than contradict it, so this is probably not a very important point of contention.